TREN/TEST?

[fishr]

Ok thanks everyone, i have read the tren A goes fast out of ur system if the sides is not too bad and even if they are i can just stop using it. So im going to run a TREN ACETATE only cycel for 4-5 weeks, i can keep u posted. If you think its a really bad idea tell me, thaks. I have alot of friends thats under 20 that have used steroids, the sides really doesnt bother me i love bodybuilding,

[ROCKETW19]

Ok thanks everyone, i have read the tren A goes fast out of ur system if the sides is not too bad and even if they are i can just stop using it. So im going to run a TREN ACETATE only cycel for 4-5 weeks, i can keep u posted. If you think its a really bad idea tell me, thaks. I have alot of friends thats under 20 that have used steroids, the sides really doesnt bother me i love bodybuilding,

you are a fucking dumb ass. tren e tren a same fucking thing stupid it is still tren. yes tren A is safer but it will still cause a mess of you.

did you not read any of the replys?

[Bouncer]

the sides really doesnt bother me,

i would recommend 400mgs a week tren, 400mgs a week deca, and 100mgs per day anadrol if you wanna get huge!

:weights:

[dna9488]

i would recommend 400mgs a week tren, 400mgs a week deca, and 100mgs per day anadrol if you wanna get huge!

:weights:

damn yo. If I runz that shitz son i look lik dat Hulk sonz

[Bouncer]

damn yo. If I runz that shitz son i look lik dat Hulk sonz

more like she hulk with the amount of progesterone in your system. tits will be flowing milk in no time flat.

[fishr]

ROCKETW19 I have read all of the replys yes, i cant get benefits without sides? Whats the worst that could happen with tren? No boner for 4 weaks?

[Bouncer]

ROCKETW19 I have read all of the replys yes, i cant get benefits without sides? Whats the worst that could happen with tren? No boner for 4 weaks?

do a search for something called gyno.

basically breast tissue formation under the nipple. aka floppy tits. natural test levels shut down. you are shutting down your natural test levels with the tren but not replacing the test. you will be creating a high estrogen/progesterone (female sex hormones) environment inside the body. all kinds of mental issues with a tren only cycle. when you come off you will crash hard, mentally and physically.

i cannot stress enough that test needs to be run with tren.

run tren alone and i promise you, you will regret it.

[fishr]

OK thanks bouncer, will i avoid any of all the sides u mentioned if i use test prop along? I will stop immediatly if i see any bad sides right away, and i am a very healthy person so i think it will be minimum.

[Mr I]

Fishr as I've said, at your age tren will I believe cause potentially perminent hormonal changes most notably your body may never again produce the natural test that it does now even with pct, this may mean that when your off juice you have lower test than you do now which may well mean you lose all your gains and have phsycological and sexual and or fertility issues.

If you are trying not to listen its working but your starting to come accross as an attention seeker. If you wanna fuck yourself up then go ahead and don't listen. If you are really hardcore then you will take the rough witrh the smooth, these years are your most important in maximising your natural potential and building a solid base and you have at least 2 years to go.

What can you bench, squat etc, how many grams protien per day do you eat
What supplements do you currently take.

If your really serious you should have these answers off pat but it seems like they confuse you which suggests you have a lot more to learn and gains that can be made naturally.

I don't want you to get frustrated and leave so long as your not an attention whore but you need to tell us more about you, and don't forget we have been in your position ourselves

[fishr]

Fishr as I've said, at your age tren will I believe cause potentially perminent hormonal changes most notably your body may never again produce the natural test that it does now even with pct, this may mean that when your off juice you have lower test than you do now which may well mean you lose all your gains and have phsycological and sexual and or fertility issues.

If you are trying not to listen its working but your starting to come accross as an attention seeker. If you wanna fuck yourself up then go ahead and don't listen. If you are really hardcore then you will take the rough witrh the smooth, these years are your most important in maximising your natural potential and building a solid base and you have at least 2 years to go.

What can you bench, squat etc, how many grams protien per day do you eat
What supplements do you currently take.

If your really serious you should have these answers off pat but it seems like they confuse you which suggests you have a lot more to learn and gains that can be made naturally.

I don't want you to get frustrated and leave so long as your not an attention whore but you need to tell us more about you, and don't forget we have been in your position ourselves

Yeah, ur probably right. Im not training so seriously now because i have lost all of my motivation. I was going to if i used sterioids. But then again Mr Incredible; If im going to use something what would it be? I hope im not sounding completely rediculous im new to fitness. I have been working out for long but i dont have any motivation left. Thanks guys for all the replys

[ROCKETW19]

Im going on record that we should bann him now. he is gonna do something stupid and we will get the blame.

[fishr]

And im not an attention seeker. If ur talking about on this forum it would have make any sense to seek attention. If ur talking about my life then no, i dont show my mucels off, i always wear sweaters or something. Im not to selfconfident if you think that.

[fishr]

What's up guys? im just seeking for help, i will not blame anyone.

[Mr I]

OK my answer is as you have already been given 250mg test enanthate per week for 8 weeks, followed by 20mg of nolvadex per day for 4 weeks.

So now for you to answer some basic questions before you go there, and remember steroids respond best to a body that is already well trained, So one step at a time;

1)What is your workout routine;

how many days a week do your train and what do you train each day?

2) What do you eat in an average day

[fishr]

Ok, thanks alot.

I train 6 times a week;

Monday - Bicep,
Tuesday - Chest,
Wednesday - Triceps,
Thursday - Neck/shoulders,
friday- Back/flyes,
saturday - legs.

On every singel muscel i do 3 or 4 diffrent exercises with three sets and 6-9 reps with heavy weights.

Well, i have kind of been off diett the last week but normally i start my day with;

Meal 1 - oats( with proteinpowder) 7 in the morning.

Meal 2 Then i eat beans with tuna, or just the beans at school (10 o clock. )

Meal 3 15:30 i eat beef/fish pure meet with salad (only one or two times a week with rise or potatos)

Meal 4 Then after my workout i drink a proteinshake.

Meal 5 18:00 i eat more oats ( a diffrent kind) and

Meal 6 21:00 my last meal, mayb a box of mushroom or something.

Btw 250mg test per week? one injection a week? Thnx a lot Mr Incredible