Dbol only cycle!

[Bouncer]

Good points and thats why I am asking.

Your question mark at the end is confusing though. I thought you were making points but then I realized you were just asking questions. Lmao

[Bouncer]

By the way rocket, certain assumptions can be made. Like dosage Vs side effects. The higher the dose the worse the side effects, natural shut down etc.. Same goes for liquer, rec drugs etc..

[edvedr]

Your question mark at the end is confusing though. I thought you were making points but then I realized you were just asking questions. Lmao

lol

[Archenemy]

I think I read the same study regarding the 40% supression. If I remember correctly it wasn't the dosage so much that limited the suppression but, the fact that it was only administered once a day. So would it matter if it was 50mgs or 25mgs? Just don't break up the dosages. Obviously, 50 would stress the liver more... although, you would think not nearly as much as 25 in the am and 25 in the pm.

[Bouncer]

I think I read the same study regarding the 40% supression. If I remember correctly it wasn't the dosage so much that limited the suppression but, the fact that it was only administered once a day. So would it matter if it was 50mgs or 25mgs? Just don't break up the dosages. Obviously, 50 would stress the liver more... although, you would think not nearly as much as 25 in the am and 25 in the pm.

definitely would only be once per day about 40 min before workout.

[al the chemist]

unfortunately bouncer with my knowledge I dont think you could say there would be a 1/4 of the side effects for 1/4 of the dose...and as we both know everybodys body is unique and reacts to compounds differently, with that being said, I have taken 35 mg of dbol on workout days (5 days a week) and got great results(actually leaned out with a clean diet) without any type of crash or any noticable suppression, but I was also taking ZMA and tribulis...

[Bouncer]

I dont think you could say there would be a 1/4 of the side effects for 1/4 of the dose....

at some level there has to be a drop off though no?

i mean what if someone were to take 1mg of dbol per day. you cant tell me the sides would be the same as 100mgs of dbol per day.

that is an extreme comparison but i just wonder where that line is. there has to be a line. the question is, is that line where you can avoid sides still beneficial in terms of any kind of gains etc..

one thing that comes to mind is that the dose for guys in the 1950's and 1960's was as low as 5mgs per day and apparently they loved it.

thoughts?

[ROCKETW19]

Good points and thats why I am asking.

Your question mark at the end is confusing though. I thought you were making points but then I realized you were just asking questions. Lmao

I put a ? cuz I was confused one minute you said you didnt want bro science then 2 seconds latter you were spouting out your own. So my statement was a question,lol

[ROCKETW19]

at some level there has to be a drop off though no?

i mean what if someone were to take 1mg of dbol per day. you cant tell me the sides would be the same as 100mgs of dbol per day.

that is an extreme comparison but i just wonder where that line is. there has to be a line. the question is, is that line where you can avoid sides still beneficial in terms of any kind of gains etc..

one thing that comes to mind is that the dose for guys in the 1950's and 1960's was as low as 5mgs per day and apparently they loved it.

thoughts?

According to william llewellyn no. you will get shut down if said drug is takin at high enough dose to build muscle.
Now is that true beat the shit outta me but I do belive what he says so I will go with it.

as far as sides That would be great to find the line but I think serious blood work would have to be done all the time and then I think that fine line would only work for you as we are all different.

[al the chemist]

your absolutely correct bouncer, it will be less...but there is no information out there on the limitations on what dose you would encounter no supression, like I said ive taken 35 mg and was not supressed...

[Bouncer]

well the only thing left to do is experiment with 25mgs per day. :D

[Mr I]

Yup, do 25mg per day 1 hr before training, 5 days a week for 8 weeks, come off and start ghrp or igf and tell us.

[Bouncer]

Yup, do 25mg per day 1 hr before training, 5 days a week for 8 weeks, come off and start ghrp or igf and tell us.

well i just started igf again so was thinking about just adding the dbol to it. then just ordering more igf and running it longer.

[edvedr]

like I said ive taken 35 mg and was not supressed...

you could have had some suppression and just not notice. If you went from the high normal range to mid normal range you may not feel much of a difference, no? I know I'm splitting hairs here but I'm really interested to see blood work with this done. May have to be a future project. How long were you on 35mg a day?

[Mr I]

well i just started igf again so was thinking about just adding the dbol to it. then just ordering more igf and running it longer.

No that will mask the results.

Igf can at times cause gonad growth for some reason masking the shut down. Also you get GH stimulation from dbol anyway so no point doubling up.

There's no I in team B