My PCT/bloodwork/Bloat/etc...

[dago]

This is kind of a multi-thread guys about my last cycle any feed back advice/criticism welcome here. Well I had more blood work done and my test levels came back 148 ng about 3 days ago I about passed the fuck out man thats a long way from the cut off range of 1500 ng I was at a couple months ago while on cycle. I am going back in 2 weeks for more blood work. As far as my pct goes near the end of my cycle ( i had about 4 weeks to go ) I used oral dbol the last 4 weeks probably not the smartest thing I've done but wanted to experiment with it. Anyway my nips got itchy and a little puffy. I had letro and nolva both in my arsenal and immediatly jumped on letro at .5mg a day then next week .75mg and another week at 1.0 mg. All in all I been on letro for about a month or better. I had planned on taking april and may off do my PCT and go back on sometime in june. I am thinking about switching from letro to nolva for the rest of my PCT but am wondering how the switch will affect me and exactly how to do it. Like how much time inbetween do I need. I took my normal dose of letro 1.0 this morning. All the puffiness and itchy feeling is completely gone. Is it ok to run the nolva starting tomorow or should I wait a day or 2 for the letro to get out of my system a bit? I also experienced some bloating on this cycle mostly in my face as someone informed me but also I was bulking and eating like never before. Anyone who remembers I posted a thread about I ate so much that I actually got sick. So I cut back the size of my meals and did a lot better from there on out. Thing is back in the day when I was training AAS free my face would still bloat a little and I am wondering if this was just from all the calories/protien/fish oil I was taking in so not sure if the gear caused the bloat this time or a combination of both. As summer has been approaching I have dropped my calorie intake trying to lean up. I put on a lot of weight on this last cycle but a lot of it was just plain fat from eating so much I know this now. I did make gains and am happy with the end result and am very suprised at how much weight I lost but how much strength I have kept!!! All in all I probably gained about 8 lbs of muscle to my frame maybe more. That may not be much in some of you guys eyes but hey if I gain 8 more lbs on my next cycle thats 16 lbs. But I am confident I will do better this time. I am really not sure what my next cycle will be. I have plenty of test-e/dianabol/winstrol 100mg inject/and some 50mg winny inject. I don't want all the fat and bloat I got on my last cycle so my diet will be different. Lower carbs/calories/and I am also thinkng that the fish oil caused a lot of my fat gain I was taking 1 gram 5-6 times a day when bulking this last time. think I'll lower it to 3 grams a day this time. Also thinking on 10 mg nolva a day while on cycle to help prevent bloat/gyno. Another thing I am wondering lets say I do 500mg test-e per week and 50mg winny every day or eod would a little dbol hurt say maybe just 10 mg before I work out once a day just for a little boost? I am pondering all this stuff in my head and have not decided what to do?

[ROCKETW19]

This is kind of a multi-thread guys about my last cycle any feed back advice/criticism welcome here. Well I had more blood work done and my test levels came back 148 ng about 3 days ago I about passed the fuck out man thats a long way from the cut off range of 1500 ng I was at a couple months ago while on cycle. I am going back in 2 weeks for more blood work. As far as my pct goes near the end of my cycle ( i had about 4 weeks to go ) I used oral dbol the last 4 weeks probably not the smartest thing I've done but wanted to experiment with it. Anyway my nips got itchy and a little puffy. I had letro and nolva both in my arsenal and immediatly jumped on letro at .5mg a day then next week .75mg and another week at 1.0 mg. All in all I been on letro for about a month or better. I had planned on taking april and may off do my PCT and go back on sometime in june. I am thinking about switching from letro to nolva for the rest of my PCT but am wondering how the switch will affect me and exactly how to do it. Like how much time inbetween do I need. I took my normal dose of letro 1.0 this morning. All the puffiness and itchy feeling is completely gone. Is it ok to run the nolva starting tomorow or should I wait a day or 2 for the letro to get out of my system a bit? I also experienced some bloating on this cycle mostly in my face as someone informed me but also I was bulking and eating like never before. Anyone who remembers I posted a thread about I ate so much that I actually got sick. So I cut back the size of my meals and did a lot better from there on out. Thing is back in the day when I was training AAS free my face would still bloat a little and I am wondering if this was just from all the calories/protien/fish oil I was taking in so not sure if the gear caused the bloat this time or a combination of both. As summer has been approaching I have dropped my calorie intake trying to lean up. I put on a lot of weight on this last cycle but a lot of it was just plain fat from eating so much I know this now. I did make gains and am happy with the end result and am very suprised at how much weight I lost but how much strength I have kept!!! All in all I probably gained about 8 lbs of muscle to my frame maybe more. That may not be much in some of you guys eyes but hey if I gain 8 more lbs on my next cycle thats 16 lbs. But I am confident I will do better this time. I am really not sure what my next cycle will be. I have plenty of test-e/dianabol/winstrol 100mg inject/and some 50mg winny inject. I don't want all the fat and bloat I got on my last cycle so my diet will be different. Lower carbs/calories/and I am also thinkng that the fish oil caused a lot of my fat gain I was taking 1 gram 5-6 times a day when bulking this last time. think I'll lower it to 3 grams a day this time. Also thinking on 10 mg nolva a day while on cycle to help prevent bloat/gyno. Another thing I am wondering lets say I do 500mg test-e per week and 50mg winny every day or eod would a little dbol hurt say maybe just 10 mg before I work out once a day just for a little boost? I am pondering all this stuff in my head and have not decided what to do?

Bro way to much info and rambling on you need to ask 1 question and go from there. Ill start with the first. Your PCT. Letro is not for PCT so you are already jacked right there. when was your last injection of test? I wait 3 weeks after last injection of test E then start my Nolva.

[dago]

Last injection was march 29th the reason I used letro was because I'm scared to death of gyno and I was getting the symtoms. I was reading in the gyno thread were Bouncer told one of the guys who had a mild case to just use letro for his PCT and it would also help get his natty test back up so I didn't really think it would hurt to use letro until the symptoms went away. So I should start nolva asap? Sorry yea I guess I was rambling a bit

[Bouncer]

I will address the first question.

You bumped the letro up week to week way to fast. You should have stayed at a certain dose for at least 2-3 weeks.

Your gyno is now gone so drop the letro down to .25mgs every other day. If you completly come off letro right away you will have issues with estrogen. Run .25mgs of letro every other day for a month and then come off.

dont get any blood work done until you have been off all supps like letro for at least 2-3 month as they are going to give you abnormal readings in terms of estrogen and test etc..

as for the rest of your post, lol, make a different thread bro.

[Mr I]

I say taper off letro and start nolva, also evening primrose/vit A in the afternoon and ZMA is a must before bed