Sust 250 and EQ long bulker

[Casket]

Hey guys

Looking at doing a long bulker of sust and eq. Plans are the following:

Week 1 - 20 Sust 250 @ 750mg a week split
Week 1 - 20 EQ @ 600mg a week split
Week 1 - 20 Armidex @ .50mg eod and bump to .75mg eod if needed

Thats it, stats

189lbs with 13% bf and 26y. This will be my third cycle.

Currently on 2800 cal and will increase cal every 2nd week as needed.

[Bouncer]

i would swap the arimidex for nolvadex.

the armididex will rob you of some of your gaines.

how long is the cycle?

[Casket]

If i get robbed of a pound or two that's not to major for me. Cycle length is 20 weeks

[Bouncer]

what if its 5lbs or more?

you need some estrogen to grow.

you sound like you have a pretty good grip on things though so do what you think is best for you.

[jack tors]

bro its really good advise. try the nolva works great for bloating. Ever run Sus b4? I don't bloat much at all from Sus or Test Prop but quite a bit from Test E. i have 3/4 of my adex left b/c it worked too well and also killed my sex drive. EOD i'd be surprised you can keep it at .50 for more than a month let alone moving up to .75.

[Casket]

cool, thanx for the input so far. Well my previous cycle was a 16 weeker of test cyp and eq. The test cyp was run at 750 mg a week and the estro sides weren't to great. i bloated badly and got gyno. In that cycle i started adex at .50md eod and the bloat went semi away and the gyno stop from getting worse. Plus sex drive was fine at that dose.

From my research it general ball park fiqure of 50% estro suppression shouldn't be to great to stop or lesson gains. Unlike letro that made one of my other cycle a flop even at .50mg eod. There my gains stopped dead and sex drive was out the window. So never letro again.

But i'll toy with the idea of nolva if u guys think its better suited for my needs.

Plus im always eager to learn more, one can never know enough in this game. Plus what was good last year might not be so good this year. Science is forever contradicting themself time and time again.

[Ashop]

Hey guys

Looking at doing a long bulker of sust and eq. Plans are the following:

Week 1 - 20 Sust 250 @ 750mg a week split
Week 1 - 20 EQ @ 600mg a week split
Week 1 - 20 Armidex @ .50mg eod and bump to .75mg eod if needed

Thats it, stats

189lbs with 13% bf and 26y. This will be my third cycle.

Currently on 2800 cal and will increase cal every 2nd week as needed.

I think you could make some nice gains if you eat and train hard. Thats a long cycle.

[jack tors]

From my research it general ball park fiqure of 50% estro suppression shouldn't be to great to stop or lesson gains. Unlike letro that made one of my other cycle a flop even at .50mg eod. There my gains stopped dead and sex drive was out the window. So never letro again.

yeah but how do you know if your at 50%? reducing the bloat actually improves the conversion of test. i went back and forth for a while and ended up with just the nolva. nolva will prevent gyno much better than adex.

[Casket]

Quick update for those interested

Weight went up by 6.6lbs ( 3kg ) and bf drop aswell. The first 6 weeks of the cycle weight stayed more or less the same but i was getting leaner and more vascular. My body was in metabolic over drive. So i quess i was just swapping fat for muscle which i don't mind.

Im in week 10 now. I quess alot would say this isn't massive gains but im happy as im finding it more quality then quantity.

Only complaints would be the acne and cramps

[Bouncer]

yea if you are leaner you dropped bf and gained muscle so i am sure it looks like you gained more then 6.

[Mr I]

Looks good to me bro, sounds like its gone well so far

[Casket]

Hey guys

So im swapping over to short ester now waiting for the long ester to clear so i can do PCT

My weight is now 199 lbs and fluctuating and bf is up to just over 13% but i am on roughly 4500c cals at the moment

So heres what is was thinking in this time that i swap over to short esters namely test prop and mast prop. I wanna try and keep my lbm and cut the little fat i picked up. Dont mind dropping sum weight aslong as i can end the cycle lean and hard with a over increase in lbm.

So what u guys think?

[ROCKETW19]

Hey guys

So im swapping over to short ester now waiting for the long ester to clear so i can do PCT

My weight is now 199 lbs and fluctuating and bf is up to just over 13% but i am on roughly 4500c cals at the moment

So heres what is was thinking in this time that i swap over to short esters namely test prop and mast prop. I wanna try and keep my lbm and cut the little fat i picked up. Dont mind dropping sum weight aslong as i can end the cycle lean and hard with a over increase in lbm.

So what u guys think?

people switch to prop all the time at the end of cycles so they can go into PCT faster. I nevr though it was a big deal and usally just waited the 3 weeks to start PCT. But if you feel three weeks of prop will help ya then go for it.