Test. E/Tren. A cycle

[caged]

i appreciate all the advice guys
also i have 1 1/4 23 guage needles will they be sufficient for glute and outer thigh IM injections
or is that guage too thick/long?

are you fucking for real dog?
:weights:lol tren. lol

[crossconnect]

Alot of good advice here bro, with "too young" being the best. I can say that because I waited till I was 23. Lol. With that said, I grew qaulity muscle with sust 250 preloads from a cancun pharmacy, 250mg per week for 12 weeks on my first cycle. My point is "less is more" on your first cycle and multiple compounds aren't needed, and, possibly counter productive and harmful. That way you know how your body responds to each compound.

Nothing wrong with slow, steady gains. Make sure you have diet, training and rest in check. Anabolics are just another piece of the puzzle. Enjoy the fruits of your labor my friend. Just remember, you have to come off sometime. Be prepared for all that that intails. By the way, my first cycle was in 93'. Been living, and loving the lifestyle ever since.

[Bluesteel]

thanks for the advice mate apprecitae it an caged i was only suggesting the tren as an option cos i had it on hand and the main reason i mentioned it was to find out the best possible option for me. but dont get me wrong i understand how stupid i sounded for suggesting tren for a first cycle but im a noob:)

so i decided to go with a test e only cycle at 250mg every 7 days for 10 weeks just started it the other night and must say the injection was not that bad at all feel pretty confident and got my diet in order, im stayin away from the sodium as much as possible to avoid any excess bloating, so yea ill keep you guys posted on my progress

[Bluesteel]

hey guys was just curious of when the test should usually begin to kick in? like 2 weeks or so or will it not be that noticable at 250mg every 7 days?
also would it be a good idea to start running the nolva at 10 or 20 mg eod if i begin to feel estrogen sides like sensitive nips?

[Bouncer]

bout 2-3 weeks

[product12]

hey guys was just curious of when the test should usually begin to kick in? like 2 weeks or so or will it not be that noticable at 250mg every 7 days?
also would it be a good idea to start running the nolva at 10 or 20 mg eod if i begin to feel estrogen sides like sensitive nips?

Dude people overract like hell man.. when i started to use AAS people where like stay away from tren very bad sides etc, then i just took TEST at 500mg a week. It was pure bullshitt just got bloated up nothing speciall. Then i took tren a with test i was so exited and i didnt get any sides at all and just went up strength a bit it was also a big dissapointment. Im just saying add the tren in you will be fine many of my friends started with test and tren e at high doses for first cycle they got great gains and nothing serious with sides. Theese ''experts'' on this forum makes steroids sounds much more dangerous then it really is. Trust me add the tren in. Dont make the mistake like i made 10 weeks with test only some pain in the arse for nothing.

[Bouncer]

Dude people overract like hell man.. when i started to use AAS people where like stay away from tren very bad sides etc, then i just took TEST at 500mg a week. It was pure bullshitt just got bloated up nothing speciall. Then i took tren a with test i was so exited and i didnt get any sides at all and just went up strength a bit it was also a big dissapointment. Im just saying add the tren in you will be fine many of my friends started with test and tren e at high doses for first cycle they got great gains and nothing serious with sides. Theese ''experts'' on this forum makes steroids sounds much more dangerous then it really is. Trust me add the tren in. Dont make the mistake like i made 10 weeks with test only some pain in the arse for nothing.

Lol. Yea, the main steroid hormone that is testosterone is "pure bullshit". Lmao

[ROCKETW19]

Dude people overract like hell man.. when i started to use AAS people where like stay away from tren very bad sides etc, then i just took TEST at 500mg a week. It was pure bullshitt just got bloated up nothing speciall. Then i took tren a with test i was so exited and i didnt get any sides at all and just went up strength a bit it was also a big dissapointment. Im just saying add the tren in you will be fine many of my friends started with test and tren e at high doses for first cycle they got great gains and nothing serious with sides. Theese ''experts'' on this forum makes steroids sounds much more dangerous then it really is. Trust me add the tren in. Dont make the mistake like i made 10 weeks with test only some pain in the arse for nothing.

you seriously have no clue bro. you actually did it right by taking test only for a first cycle. Sure you are to young but the fact still is test and tren together first cycle is no good. "what if" you had a serious bad side effect like gyno. You would have no clue how to stop it or even what drug caused it.

[al the chemist]

this is really funny...consider myself quite calm but 75 mg tren eod had me with a short fuse, if you didnt get good gains from tren you suck too because I had the best gains (strength/fat loss-with good diet/vascularity) from it but couldnt run it for more than 4 weeks due to other sides such as insomnia/anxiety amongst others, which subsided once tren was stopped. Product you also ran test 500 and disappointed, if you could not grow off of 500 mg test either a)your shit was fake or b)you dont know what your doing...

[Bluesteel]

hey guys like i said i am sticking with 250mg of test every 5 days as it seemed sensible for a first cycle and my strength has already increased ive been lifting everyday, my diet has been spot on also taking mutant mass weight gainer protein anyone had any experience with this supp? anyway i am quite pleased so far with my strength gains although enough time has not yet passed to attribute alot of the gain to the test i think it has mainly been dedication to the diet and hard training at the moment however i have noticed i have lately been running unusually hot and im sweating a little more during workouts has anyone experienced this before? other than that havent noticed any other sides as of yet also is it beneficial to throw a little cardio in the mix? wat u guys think

[Bouncer]

hey guys like i said i am sticking with 250mg of test every 5 days as it seemed sensible for a first cycle and my strength has already increased ive been lifting everyday, my diet has been spot on also taking mutant mass weight gainer protein anyone had any experience with this supp? anyway i am quite pleased so far with my strength gains although enough time has not yet passed to attribute alot of the gain to the test i think it has mainly been dedication to the diet and hard training at the moment however i have noticed i have lately been running unusually hot and im sweating a little more during workouts has anyone experienced this before? other than that havent noticed any other sides as of yet also is it beneficial to throw a little cardio in the mix? wat u guys think

yea its normal to be warmer overall. no need for cardio unless you are trying to get rid of some fat.

[product12]

this is really funny...consider myself quite calm but 75 mg tren eod had me with a short fuse, if you didnt get good gains from tren you suck too because I had the best gains (strength/fat loss-with good diet/vascularity) from it but couldnt run it for more than 4 weeks due to other sides such as insomnia/anxiety amongst others, which subsided once tren was stopped. Product you also ran test 500 and disappointed, if you could not grow off of 500 mg test either a)your shit was fake or b)you dont know what your doing...

I did see results with the cycle but not anything special i went up 5kg..But people where saying TREN is the best blablabla it is harsh on you blablabla.. my gear is as real as u get it.. I am on a new cycle now test + tren e.. my last cycle was tren a.. i am using pretty high doses this time so im exited to see what '' the best steroid '' will do this time.

[Bouncer]

Lol, sounds like your genetics are pretty bad bro. Sorry about that.

[Bluesteel]

yea its normal to be warmer overall. no need for cardio unless you are trying to get rid of some fat.

oh k cool jut thought id check and quick question bout my diet im eatin about 2600 calories per day right now does anyone recommend i up it to about 3500- 4000 per day im capable of eating this much but id rather get an opinion first

Also thanks to everyone for all the advice and constructive criticism this is by far the best forum i have joined:) ive learnt heaps cheers guys.

[jack tors]

I did see results with the cycle but not anything special i went up 5kg..But people where saying TREN is the best blablabla it is harsh on you blablabla.. my gear is as real as u get it.. I am on a new cycle now test + tren e.. my last cycle was tren a.. i am using pretty high doses this time so im exited to see what '' the best steroid '' will do this time.

fucking christ you didnt respond to tren? sure its not fake? maybe you should try sus next time. i love tren and the aggression that comes with it. the only way to describe it is the switch in your brain that tells you to walk away be the better person is gone LOL. were all diff but thats how it was for me