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  • #16
    Originally posted by jack tors View Post
    I love it. i thought Tren Acetate was much better than Enathate but you know how it goes all depends on brand. Im currently using Viking. 300mg a week was good enough for me. got great results. only con is as you know shuts you down hard. id probably use HCG (i know you hate) or a little nolva 10mg every other day.
    I agree tren A is way better but B only wants 1 per week shots.

    I do not agree on nolva it will do zero with tren. HCG yes nolva no.

    I am like you B anything over 300 my nips blow up so I run just under at 250. shit still works crazy good. The way you respond to this junk I am sure you will ove 250 or even 200 also.
    since you are gonna run the E I would start at 200 for at least 5 weeks before you adjust.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by GrowthMan View Post
      Drop the deca run the tren. Under 350mg/wk total you shouldn't have probs?

      What ester of Test have you been runnin?
      i had probs at 300mgs per week like i said above bro.

      test is test E

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      • #18
        Originally posted by ROCKETW19 View Post
        I agree tren A is way better but B only wants 1 per week shots.

        I do not agree on nolva it will do zero with tren. HCG yes nolva no.

        I am like you B anything over 300 my nips blow up so I run just under at 250. shit still works crazy good. The way you respond to this junk I am sure you will ove 250 or even 200 also.
        since you are gonna run the E I would start at 200 for at least 5 weeks before you adjust.
        think i will do it next cycle

        week 1-20 Test E 250mgs
        week 1-18 Tren E 200mgs

        I may do shots every 5 days like Mr I said.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by THE BOUNCER View Post
          think i will do it next cycle

          week 1-20 Test E 250mgs
          week 1-18 Tren E 200mgs

          I may do shots every 5 days like Mr I said.
          How long did you do the deca? Any reason you want to run tren E for so long? I agree with I if you can handle the e5d inj that'd be better than e7d.

          You ran the deca for what? 6 weeks? Not to throw a wrench in, but what about dropping the deca for eq for the next 6 then tren for the last 6? Flush out the prog for a bit then hit it hard with the tren.
          keeping the test as a base, rotating deca, eq, and tren in that order. Is the receptor thing bro science? The local vets still have us switching around compounds every 6 weeks or so bc they say the receptors don't respond to the same compounds for too long.

          (Bouncer mass cycle)

          Week 1-6
          Test E 250/w
          Deca 200/w

          Week 7-12
          Test C 250e5d
          EQ 200e5d

          Week 13-18
          (Ideal)
          Sust 250 e4d
          Tren Hex 152 e4d
          (But I guess since you can't pin...):wack:
          Test E 250e5d
          Tren E 200e5d

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          THis is similar, from a 2008 Muscular Development "testosterone" section. This has also floated on the internet advocated by Dave Palumbo but I have the article in one of my MDs at home.

          Mass Cycle (circa 2008)

          Week 1-6
          250mg Enan EOD
          200mg Deca EOD
          Gh 3iu/day
          Slin 8iu AM 4iu PM
          arimi 1mg eod

          Week 7-12
          250mg Cyp EOD
          200mg EQ EOD
          Gh 3iu/day
          Slin 8iu AM 4iu PM
          arimi 1mg eod

          Week 13-18
          250mg Sust EOD
          75mg Tren A EOD
          Gh 3iu/day
          Slin 8iu AM 4iu PM
          Arimi 1mg eod

          I'm surprised the inj bother you? All these years (I know you're a vet bro) and you still hate inj's? Weird.

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          • #20
            B ,, that's a low dose but you respond very well to lower dose setups so def give it a shot .. i feel tren if tolerated is one of the best compounds bar none when it comes to adding size ontop of keeping good definition .. tren ace , hex , enanthate i love the stuff

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            • #21
              After reading this thread i am wondering what my first time tren dose should be coming up this summer. was gonna go 500mg test-e week with 250mg tren-e per week now I wonder is that too much or just a waste. Maybe get just as good results with lower doses for first time tren use?

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              • #22
                Originally posted by dago View Post
                After reading this thread i am wondering what my first time tren dose should be coming up this summer. was gonna go 500mg test-e week with 250mg tren-e per week now I wonder is that too much or just a waste. Maybe get just as good results with lower doses for first time tren use?
                when you are ready start your own thread.

                But that cycle is a good place to start.

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                • #23
                  Tippy taming some time off first bouncer? Been on a whole now?

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by GrowthMan View Post
                    How long did you do the deca? Any reason you want to run tren E for so long? I agree with I if you can handle the e5d inj that'd be better than e7d.

                    You ran the deca for what? 6 weeks? Not to throw a wrench in, but what about dropping the deca for eq for the next 6 then tren for the last 6? Flush out the prog for a bit then hit it hard with the tren.
                    keeping the test as a base, rotating deca, eq, and tren in that order. Is the receptor thing bro science? The local vets still have us switching around compounds every 6 weeks or so bc they say the receptors don't respond to the same compounds for too long.

                    (Bouncer mass cycle)

                    Week 1-6
                    Test E 250/w
                    Deca 200/w

                    Week 7-12
                    Test C 250e5d
                    EQ 200e5d

                    Week 13-18
                    (Ideal)
                    Sust 250 e4d
                    Tren Hex 152 e4d
                    (But I guess since you can't pin...):wack:
                    Test E 250e5d
                    Tren E 200e5d

                    ------------------------------------------
                    THis is similar, from a 2008 Muscular Development "testosterone" section. This has also floated on the internet advocated by Dave Palumbo but I have the article in one of my MDs at home.

                    Mass Cycle (circa 2008)

                    Week 1-6
                    250mg Enan EOD
                    200mg Deca EOD
                    Gh 3iu/day
                    Slin 8iu AM 4iu PM
                    arimi 1mg eod

                    Week 7-12
                    250mg Cyp EOD
                    200mg EQ EOD
                    Gh 3iu/day
                    Slin 8iu AM 4iu PM
                    arimi 1mg eod

                    Week 13-18
                    250mg Sust EOD
                    75mg Tren A EOD
                    Gh 3iu/day
                    Slin 8iu AM 4iu PM
                    Arimi 1mg eod

                    I'm surprised the inj bother you? All these years (I know you're a vet bro) and you still hate inj's? Weird.
                    i dont like EQ one of those drugs that does nothing for me, have used it in 2 cycles @400mgs. i think its because i stay pretty lean and hard.

                    not gonna stop the deca because i am having great results with it.

                    the test and tren would be for my next cycle, not to incorporate with this one.

                    not sure about your mixing matching and changing ideas, i cant knock it because i i never used gear like that but i like to keep things simple and basic. in my mind, test and tren 1 shot every 5 days in same pin seems right if that makes sense.

                    yea i still have to get myself pumped up to get an injection, i hate it like a cat hates water.
                    Last edited by Bouncer; 12-02-11, 08:28 AM.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Mr incredible View Post
                      Tippy taming some time off first bouncer? Been on a whole now?
                      tippy taming? lol

                      gonna run the test deca cycle through winter. come off in march 1st and start back up june 1st with the test and tren.

                      ghrp-2 the whole 3 months i am off.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by dago View Post
                        After reading this thread i am wondering what my first time tren dose should be coming up this summer. was gonna go 500mg test-e week with 250mg tren-e per week now I wonder is that too much or just a waste. Maybe get just as good results with lower doses for first time tren use?
                        I think that'd be fine.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by THE BOUNCER View Post
                          tippy taming? lol

                          gonna run the test deca cycle through winter. come off in march 1st and start back up june 1st with the test and tren.

                          ghrp-2 the whole 3 months i am off.
                          Sounds like a good plan. And you don't run G b/c pharma's to $$ and feel that all chinese is shit? And you think insulin belongs in the garbage? Slin and G would make phenomenal additions to the Test/Deca but you already know that.

                          I hear you on the Test/Deca...I responded so much better to Test/Deca/Dbol than Test/Tren/Abomb for bulking. Felt better mentally, never got sick, no headaches, slept better, strength was the same.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by GrowthMan View Post
                            Sounds like a good plan. And you don't run G b/c pharma's to $$ and feel that all chinese is shit? And you think insulin belongs in the garbage? Slin and G would make phenomenal additions to the Test/Deca but you already know that.

                            I hear you on the Test/Deca...I responded so much better to Test/Deca/Dbol than Test/Tren/Abomb for bulking. Felt better mentally, never got sick, no headaches, slept better, strength was the same.
                            nope, slin will ruin a body. most chinese gh is shit yes.

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