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  • Beginner, looking for advice.

    Hi guys,

    I am new to steroids, and have only been using for about 3 weeks. A buddy got me into them by giving me a few vials of his previous cycle until mine arrived. I did some research, and what he told me to order just doesn't seem to add up to me. I will break down what he told me. Any advice would be appreciated.

    He had me order:
    Test 500
    -200mg Testosterone Deconate
    -100mg Testosterone Propionate
    -100mg Testosterone Phenylpropionate
    -50mg Testosterone Cypionate
    -50mg Testosterone Isocaproate

    Sustanon Blend 300
    -100mg Testosterone Propionate
    -100mg Testosterone Enanthate
    -100mg Testosterone Decanate

    Trenbolone 150
    -50mg Trenbolone Acetate
    -50mg Trenbolone Enanthate
    -50mg Trenbolone Hexahydrobenzylcarbonate

    20mg Tamoxifen tablets
    50mg Lomiphene tablets(for post cycle use)

    Now a year ago I was 5'8 and about 255lbs, and couldn't bench 150. I am now down to 185, and max out at about 275(before starting my cycle). For about a month I had been trying to pass that hump, and that's when he recommended steroids. But, these numbers seem quite high. He tells me the Tamoxifen tablets will prevent side effects. Unfortunately, he has left on a business trip, and never told me what my doses should be, or how often. What do you guys think? How often and how much should I be using?
    I apologize for the long thread.

  • #2
    the first 2 you listed are basically the same thing, a test blend aka Sustanon.

    3rd is a tren blend.

    for a first cycle i would never recommend tren.

    test only is all you need.

    500mg a week for 12 weeks

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    • #3
      Thank you for your response. Should I use the Test 500 or the Sustanon? Because of the ester differences, should I do 1ml once a week, or 1/2ml every 3 days?

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      • #4
        E3d. Keep that nolva on hand too. Next time tell him you want enan or cyp for your esters. Helps keep that blood level steadier.

        Good luck

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        • #5
          Thanks, hoping to see good results. I have been taking half a nolva each day. The 500 has cyp in it, and the sustanon has enan, but neither has both =/ I could always put 1/4ml of each in at same time to get both of those, no?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Ironlightning00
            Thanks, hoping to see good results. I have been taking half a nolva each day. The 500 has cyp in it, and the sustanon has enan, but neither has both =/ I could always put 1/4ml of each in at same time to get both of those, no?
            Don't over think what you've got going on. Keep it simple bro. And I was saying enan OR cyp. Not both together.

            T500 at e3d or even biweekly injections will give you results. And don't take the nolva unless or until you start seeing gyno precursors, like itchy or sensitive nipples.

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            • #7
              Will do bud, thanks. I appreciate all the help. My friend just finished HIS first cycle, and didn't really read up into anything. He just started popping and shooting up shit. As far as side effects go, I have none after three weeks, is this normal? No increased libido, no oily skin,no breakouts, no agitation, nothing. I take that as my body handling it well? Or has it not been long enough?

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              • #8
                What have you been shooting the last three weeks, and how much?

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                • #9
                  1/2ml of Sustanon 250 every three days, and a vial of 250mg/ml enan every 4 days

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Ironlightning00
                    1/2ml of Sustanon 250 every three days, and a vial of 250mg/ml enan every 4 days
                    Look for another week for the enan to kick in visibly. Takes a month for me with that ester.

                    As to the other, you should have some night sweats and some testicular atrophy by now. You really feel no sides?

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                    • #11
                      Nope, none. And my friend said the FIRST thing he noticed was test size. Mine are EXACTLY the same. I didn't even know sweating was a side effect.

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                      • #12
                        I sweat like a whore in church until my body acclimates to the new levels.

                        Lets try this angle, did your buddy, whom you got this gear from, noticeably grow?

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                        • #13
                          Oh yeah. He went from benching 280 to 345 in about 8 weeks time. If it matters, the company that makes the stuff is Lixus. But, he also said he "felt like a 12 year old girl scout" which is why he got the nolva.

                          EDIT: On a side note, apparently Sust is supposed to be painful for a few days afterwards and leave a bump, but it only hurts me for maybe half the next day, and the lumps gone by the end of day 1. And, as a side note, I am a short fused individual by nature, so I was skeptical about taking something that would add to my agitation. On the contrary, I feel even more mellow. It could be due to a rise in self esteem though, it's not easy being a fat guy. The idea of me getting into shape I'm sure plays a part in it.
                          Last edited by Ironlightning00; 02-08-12, 03:13 PM.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Ironlightning00
                            Oh yeah. He went from benching 280 to 345 in about 8 weeks time. If it matters, the company that makes the stuff is Lixus. But, he also said he "felt like a 12 year old girl scout" which is why he got the nolva.
                            Hmmm, im going to say then maintain the course you're on, and report back in a week or two and say what's changed if anything. Good luck bro.

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                            • #15
                              Will do, thanks a lot.

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