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    So was gonna start cycle aprli first but being the abuser I am and with the warm weather approaching decided to start this month. using the blends that bouncer posted about I have no idea if its the same brand so not trying to make seem like it is. I just happened upon a couple vials of the stuff and a friend told me I would really like it and I actually had the idea of adding 100mg of test-e to it to make it a total of 500mg. I was researching the different esters in the blend and debating on how to use it. It seems to me when the prop is leaving the body the phenyl is there to take its place then the test-e, test-cyp and on to deconate so I don't really see the need for 2-3 injections a week. I haven't used a lot of gear and do not claim to be on some of you guys level but I have made nice gains since joining SM and take you guys advice seriously. I'm gonna stack my blend with 20mg dbol for 6-8 weeks depending on blood work around the 6 week mark then add 250mg tren-e for the duration of the cycle and after been off the dbol for couple months and hopefully my liver/kidneys are fine I will add another oral winstrol to the test/tren. This will be my heaviest cycle so far and am really focusing more on diet this time around. last time i was eating everything in sight trying to gain mass to the point of making myself sick literally. So this time gonna try my best to clean it up less cheat meals more clean carbs, protien intake has never been a problem. Got all my supps and everything I need and am looking into Igf-1. Sorry if I rambled a bit the main point of the thread was the injections of the different esters. i don't have a problem with twice a week injects just debating on if its really neccesary?? I know this has been debated over and over on here and other forums but if my understanding is correct the reason for the blend of esters is as one is fading the next is taking its place thus no need for frequent injections.

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    Originally posted by dago View Post
    So was gonna start cycle aprli first but being the abuser I am and with the warm weather approaching decided to start this month. using the blends that bouncer posted about I have no idea if its the same brand so not trying to make seem like it is. I just happened upon a couple vials of the stuff and a friend told me I would really like it and I actually had the idea of adding 100mg of test-e to it to make it a total of 500mg. I was researching the different esters in the blend and debating on how to use it. It seems to me when the prop is leaving the body the phenyl is there to take its place then the test-e, test-cyp and on to deconate so I don't really see the need for 2-3 injections a week. I haven't used a lot of gear and do not claim to be on some of you guys level but I have made nice gains since joining SM and take you guys advice seriously. I'm gonna stack my blend with 20mg dbol for 6-8 weeks depending on blood work around the 6 week mark then add 250mg tren-e for the duration of the cycle and after been off the dbol for couple months and hopefully my liver/kidneys are fine I will add another oral winstrol to the test/tren. This will be my heaviest cycle so far and am really focusing more on diet this time around. last time i was eating everything in sight trying to gain mass to the point of making myself sick literally. So this time gonna try my best to clean it up less cheat meals more clean carbs, protien intake has never been a problem. Got all my supps and everything I need and am looking into Igf-1. Sorry if I rambled a bit the main point of the thread was the injections of the different esters. i don't have a problem with twice a week injects just debating on if its really neccesary?? I know this has been debated over and over on here and other forums but if my understanding is correct the reason for the blend of esters is as one is fading the next is taking its place thus no need for frequent injections.
    yes you are correct as one ester fades the next is there to take its place. BUT you inject 500mgs and the prop is gone in 2-3 days the the P-pro right after so you are realy not getting 500mgs per week at a stable level. Inject 2 times per week and your levels will be alot more stable.

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    • #3
      Depending on the amount of prop, I would seriously look at a minimum of m/w/f injects.

      Have you used tren before?
      Last edited by auri; 03-05-12, 06:27 AM.

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      • #4
        Don't listen to the hive mind bs. 1 shot a week will be perfectly fine!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by THE BOUNCER
          Don't listen to the hive mind bs. 1 shot a week will be perfectly fine!
          We are legion, bow down before our collective smartness!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by auri View Post
            Depending on the amount of prop, I would seriously look at a minimum of m/w/f injects.

            Have you used tren before?
            Nope first time tren abuser :weights:

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            • #7
              You're planning on 250 tren e per week, starting during week 6 then to the end of the cycle. How long are you planning on for the complete deal, because I think the tren is best served coming out of the gate. Otherwise you're looking at possibly week 10 before the tren kicks in.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by auri View Post
                You're planning on 250 tren e per week, starting during week 6 then to the end of the cycle. How long are you planning on for the complete deal, because I think the tren is best served coming out of the gate. Otherwise you're looking at possibly week 10 before the tren kicks in.
                I only have 1 10ml vial of tren-e been sittin on it for awhile now kinda reading and wondering about it. Cycle will be in the 6 month range. No I was planning on using the tren after about week 8 when it starts to get nioe out from now. Yes 250mg/ml. So you think I should start tren now and add orals later? Someone else suggested that..

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                • #9
                  My goal here was to use the test/dbol for the next couple months to add as much size as possible. Then add the tren and lean out as much as possible for the summer and after being off dbol for a couple months have bloodwork done if everything is fine was gonna add winny. Does this not make sense to you guys? Is my thinking off here?

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                  • #10
                    it makes sense to do it the way you are thinking. if you had more tren i would say just run it the whole time.

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                    • #11
                      ya i agree with B you have the right thining IMO and ya I would run the tren longer if you can. If you can take the sides of tren you will love it and want it longer anyways,lol

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