I have been reading up on a lot of different compounds mainly Vet grade AAS. Eq winny deca atleast those are the 3 main ones I am looking at. Only other Vet grade gear here in the States I am aware of is test-cyp and test-aqueous. From the profiles I read on here compared to other web searches Vet grade AAS are the best route when trying to gain quality muscle that lasts after you discontinue use of the drug. I know a healthy dose of test should always be ran as a base when using any of the compounds mentioned above for even better results. Now with all this in mind I look at my goals and overall health/age etc.. I have no plans of stepping on stage or getting in a cage with rocket or rado :) my goal is/was 225 lbs AAS free with a decent bf% sounds good yea well I'm not far from there now but I'm on gear so thats still a long way from my goal atleast it seems to be to me right now. Anyway after researching these drugs and having had great results with winny before I have decided these will be my weapons of choice. Test cycles at 500mg week stacked with Eq/winny and eventually I will get some GH i'm looking into that now. As for what I have wrote so far does this make sense other than I realize that winny is hard on the liver/kidneys so will be short cycles and regular bloodwork. I am just shying away from AAS that are known for estrogenic problems at this point.
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HUH????Originally posted by dago View PostVet grade AAS are the best route when trying to gain quality muscle that lasts after you discontinue use of the drug.
Bro a steroid is a steroid. "Vet Grade" simply means it is inferior to human grade in terms of purity.
There is nothing special about vet gear that will "help you gain muscle that lasts" over any other type of gear UG, Pharmacy grade etc..
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I might be a little lost. You can get eq, winny, deca in ugl and pharma grade as well as vet.
I will say that I love some vet grade gear. Qaulity Vet, Ttokkyo, denkall, brovel, tornel are a few that I used and loved in the past when they were good.
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I see what you are saying now. When I hear the term "Vet Gear" I think of the old companies from mexico like ttkoyo, QV, Denkall, etc.. they made test, deca, eq, winny, dbol, pretty much every steroid.
on the boards "Vet Gear" is usually used to describe those type of companies like "UG Gear" is used to describe gear made in someones garage. lol
one thing though, you mentioned deca. deca is a human drug made for humans. it may be used in animals, i dont know but i dont think anyone here would call deca a vet drug as it is first an foremost a human drug.
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to answer your question, you are a bit all over the place but i will try.
first of all, you say you are trying to stay away from steroids that have estrogenic sides but you want to run test? lol. test has more estrogenic sides then any other steroid.
second, the goal of getting to a point with steroids and then maintaining that naturally is something we have all said at one point or another. 225lbs will not be good enough when you get there bro. this is the steroid game and i doubt you can quit even if you want. go off and stay off cycle for about 3-4 months and tell me you arent itching to go back on. i am not saying your goals are impossible, just unlikely.
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Bro you know I got love for ya but saying Vet gear makes you keep muscle is just silly bro. as B said vet grade just means it "probably" has a less standard than human grade gear. it wont make it any better in terms of keeping gains. only way to keep gaines is a solid PCT and hard work.Originally posted by dago View PostHow can you say that look at your own steriod profiles bro. Look at any AAS that the equine industry will use to enhance performance and still keep a lot of gains after and its these.
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Ok my bad here when I say Vet gear you have to understand I grew up on a thorobred farm and this is how I was introduced to AAS at first. So I am talking about AAS I can get from my Veterinarian. Bouncer I know Test has a lot of estro sides but from what I gather is always at the base of every cycle with other compounds so can't be avoided. I'm talking about other AAS I been using dbol/adrol. I can deal with the test just trying to minimize sides as much as possible. Rocket the reason I say these things is read through the steriod profiles they all say about winny and eq quality muscle growth with little to no water retention or estro sides that lasts after you DISCONTINUE USE. Then read up on adrol or dbol the user will notice dramatic loss of weight and water retention when stopping this AAS blah blah. So why wouldn't my post make sense? I firget you guys have used gear from all over when I say Vet gear i meant a pharmacy right here in US. And fuck you buncer tell me I can't quit even if I wanted gtfo I dont wanna quit..fucking quiters suck :weights:
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I see what you are saying now bro and it makes sense now that you explained it.
You are correct, things like EQ, Winny, Primo, and bunch of other drugs will let you hold onto the muscle after you go off compared to dbol and anadrol that is mostly all water bloat.
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