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Another study for you rocket
EFFECT OF INTRAVENOUS ADMINISTRATION OF HUMAN GROWTH HORMONE ON SULPHATION FACTOR ACTIVITY IN SERUM OF HYPOPITUITARY SUBJECTS
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Human growth hormone (HGH) administered as an iv injection of 2–4 mg to hypopituitary patients induced a rise in the levels of sulphation factor (SF) in serum. The low basal levels of SF were not changed during the first hour after HGH injection. Not until three hours after injection, when HGH values approached basal values, there was a significant rise in SF. The mean difference of SF at one and at three hours after HGH injection was 0.52 ± 0.11.
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yea i found that if you inject even so much as the tiniest of air bubble you could fucken die! also if the gh isnt extremly pure you could be putting unknown chemicals directly through your heart. they said anyone that even considers it IS A GOD DAMN FUCKEN MORON!Originally posted by ROCKETW19 View Postjust listen to me and you wouldnt need to google anything I know all bro!
did you see anything on IV? I would like to remember why they say it was better not sure why I care as i will forget in 2 months anyways,lol
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just listen to me and you wouldnt need to google anything I know all bro!
did you see anything on IV? I would like to remember why they say it was better not sure why I care as i will forget in 2 months anyways,lol
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haha we posted the same study. :D
basically the study is saying they work the same and people tend to prefer to shoot sub-q for comfort and ease reasons.
that pretty much answers it, no real advantage one over the other. and considering that all doctors and the gh inserts say sub-q, i think i am now perfectly confident that sub-q is the way!
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my google skills have worked and I have found real science on the matter!
A comparison of subcutaneous and intramuscular administration of human growth hormone in the therapy of growth hormone deficiency.
A comparison of subcutaneous and int... [J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 1982] - PubMed - NCBI
The sc and im administration of human GH (hGH) was compared in the therapy of GH deficiency. The peak and integrated concentrations of hGH in the plasma of the patients were similar after sc and im injection of an initial dose (0.1 U/kg) of hGH. The peak hGH concentration occurred at 2 h in both groups. The posttreatment height velocity and the change in height velocity at 3-month intervals were also similar in the im and sc groups. The somatomedin generation test resulted in a higher mean peak of somatomedin C after sc injection; however, if the individual peaks of somatomedin C were averaged, there was no difference between sc and im injection. A cross-over at 9 months of therapy to determine patient acceptance of im vs. sc injections indicated overwhelming acceptance of the sc route. The antibody responses to hGH were similar in both groups. We conclude that sc injection of hGH is an effective and safe mode of therapy for GH deficiency. The lipoatrophy that occurred infrequently at the injection site can be eliminated by rotation of sites. Subcutaneous administration of hGH will be more acceptable by the patients with less pain and less noncompliance.
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Old but relevant.
A Comparison of Subcutaneous and Intramuscular Administration of Human Growth Hormone in the Therapy of Growth Hormone Deficiency
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The sc and im administration of human GH (hGH) was compared in the therapy of GH deficiency. The peak and integrated concentrations of hGH in the plasma of the patients were similar after sc and im injection of an initial dose (0.1 U⁄kg) of hGH. The peak hGH concentration occurred at 2 h in both groups. The posttreatment height velocity and the change in height velocity at 3-month intervals were also similar n i the im and sc groups. The somatomedin generation test resulted in a higher mean peak of somatomedin C after sc injection; however, if the individual peaks of somatomedin C were averaged, there was no difference between sc and iminjection. A cross-over at 9 months of therapy to determine patient acceptance of im vs. sc injections indicated overwhelming acceptance of the sc route. The antibody responses to hGH were similar in both groups.
We conclude that sc injection of hGH is an effective and safe mode of therapy for GH deficiency. The lipoatrophy that occurred infrequently at the injection site can be eliminated by rotation of sites. Subcutaneous administration of hGH will be more acceptable by the patients with less pain and less noncom-pliance.
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all i can find on google is from forums where people are just talking about the same shit. i am looking for articles on the subject.
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you know me bro I read this along time ago when i first got into GH. I am sure your google skills would bring a anwser or 2Originally posted by THE BOUNCER View Postyea fuck the IV thing, that is wrong and dangerous on many levels.
rocket can you find that article again?
once i read something I keep what I want and move on sometimes i wont even know why I just remember thats the right thing.
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yea fuck the IV thing, that is wrong and dangerous on many levels.
rocket can you find that article again?
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I read in muscular development along time ago IV was best. then sub q then IM. pretty sure i got that right. I always had great results using sub Q so I never changed besides something about IV dont seem steroid anymore I would feel like a junky,lol
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