IGF use with GH not worth it?? myth?

[inkslinger]

Ok so whats the truth about the IGF / GH debate.
Most things I read says that a low moderate dose of IGF while running your gear/gh can make a HUGE different.. i was told to put it in the muscle I train post work out. Others told me to save it for after all my kits are gone because my body already is releasing ifg from the gh ..and you wouldnt want to fuck with the growth doing what its doing ? so basically I get someone telling me gh/igf/gear is like milk and cookies...especially if ya throw in slin .. which i wont be doing... while some say its a waste


helpp bros?
anyone with experience with this

[ROCKETW19]

If you have real IGF it is fucking amazing with GH. IGF turns GH into a super GH you will love it. Problem is where ya gonna get real IGF?Never mind dont anwser that but yes it fuckin insane do it

[GrowthMan]

Yes. I have an article in an md mag saying combining the two yields better gains. That being said igf is rarely used by top bbs.

[inkslinger]

most people who seem like they know their stuff have been saying DO IT.. it just seems insulin keeps popping up into the equation which i dont want to mess with... i have 2000 mcg right now ... i keep you all posted ;-)

[ROCKETW19]

Ya insulin will always be in the mix but I think its to scarry for me. If I was pro or something I might look into it more but no need for me at my age and the look I am after.

[inkslinger]

Ya insulin will always be in the mix but I think its to scarry for me. If I was pro or something I might look into it more but no need for me at my age and the look I am after.

too scarry for me too.. and im not going for that beast look ever.. 50mcg too little? directions say 50mcg in muscle trained
i dont know seems the 200mcg people are telling me is just Overkill ... i respond well to little doses of things

[ROCKETW19]

too scarry for me too.. and im not going for that beast look ever.. 50mcg too little? directions say 50mcg in muscle trained
i dont know seems the 200mcg people are telling me is just Overkill ... i respond well to little doses of things

Id try 50 to start. you will know fast if you have to bump it. so either pick a number and go for it or have enough in case you want to bump. I always did IM muscle trained but I also did subQ there was no difference. I just liked doing muscle trained

[inkslinger]

Ok so I have been on IGF with my growth and cycle for a steady 7 days, ive been doing IM into muscle trained.. 50mcg .. is this stuff magic or something? lol ..this morning I work up and felt like I looked extremely different.. could just be the perfect storm because everything should be jelling nicely.. but im extremely hard ..lean.. and full with zero bloat ..question is how long do I run igf for? I have enough where I can do 3 months

[ROCKETW19]

Ok so I have been on IGF with my growth and cycle for a steady 7 days, ive been doing IM into muscle trained.. 50mcg .. is this stuff magic or something? lol ..this morning I work up and felt like I looked extremely different.. could just be the perfect storm because everything should be jelling nicely.. but im extremely hard ..lean.. and full with zero bloat ..question is how long do I run igf for? I have enough where I can do 3 months

you must have real IGF then. Like I said it is insane if you have the two mixed together and they are real.
I forget the length you can run IGF it wouldnt be hard to search it real fast but 4 weeks is what I "think" but honestly dont remember. if ti is go 4 weeks on 4 off 4 on 4 off ect
but check the time length first

[FrankTheTank55]

I mixed a vial of igf the other day and then used that to mix a vial of my growth with. Im not sure if its in my head or what but last night i could really see a difference!!! Gonna try it for a while. I'm just shooting it sub q. But when I do straight igf I always do it in whichever muscle I trained.

[FrankTheTank55]

you must have real IGF then. Like I said it is insane if you have the two mixed together and they are real.
I forget the length you can run IGF it wouldnt be hard to search it real fast but 4 weeks is what I "think" but honestly dont remember. if ti is go 4 weeks on 4 off 4 on 4 off ect
but check the time length first

I always heard 4 weeks too. The thing is igf goes bad so fast. Unless you use acidic acid to mix it. It's been hard for me to get a hold of some.

[inkslinger]

Frank, you use .03 (3 iu) of distilled white vinegar (acetic acid) then 2ml of water .. mixing with regular water is a waste given the amount youre supposed to use, etc.

Oh yea, I wasnt doubting that my stuff was real, I just want to make the most out of it of course. Thanks for all the info rocket.. im glad I started it now. 50mcg seems to be plenty, I have done research and a lot of people say 20-30 when stacking is sufficient.

There was an interesting read on using IGF post cycle with clomid,nolva and hcg ... since it doesnt effect your natty production.

Oh.. one more thing, I've noticed some serious pumps and I'm a lot more vascular. My forearms are like concrete and my veins especially on my arms/chest are totally visible now.

[inkslinger]

Frank, you use .03 (3 iu) of distilled white vinegar (acetic acid) then 2ml of water .. mixing with regular water is a waste given the amount youre supposed to use, etc.

Oh yea, I wasnt doubting that my stuff was real, I just want to make the most out of it of course. Thanks for all the info rocket.. im glad I started it now. 50mcg seems to be plenty, I have done research and a lot of people say 20-30 when stacking is sufficient.

There was an interesting read on using IGF post cycle with clomid,nolva and hcg ... since it doesnt effect your natty production.

Oh.. one more thing, I've noticed some serious pumps and I'm a lot more vascular. My forearms are like concrete and my veins especially on my arms/chest are totally visible now.

Oh yea some people just use bacteriostatic water and say this will give you a good 3-4 weeks storage. No clue of the validity of that though, I have always been told to use acetic/water combo

[FrankTheTank55]

Oh yea some people just use bacteriostatic water and say this will give you a good 3-4 weeks storage. No clue of the validity of that though, I have always been told to use acetic/water combo

I used bac water but i think it only lasts a few days. I could tell a difference from the first couple days and the last few days. I just made sure I used it all within 3 days...LOL But I will do the vinegar thing! Thanks!

[inkslinger]

yea, white distilled vinegar brother, thats acetic acid .. can mix the 3iu with water and it lasts awhile.. i fridge mine others leave it room temp..
loving this IGF :-)