so.....

[lipripper]

For conversations sake, ...supposed an old bastard like myself thought about going to the dark side and never had been. Wants to gain some size but not go crazy and be too noticable too quick and have some decent gains after cycle that would stick for a while with good diet and training. Then maybe run a cycle a year or so after and continue like that. Would that be enough to keep the gains? or a waste of time?I dont want to be blown up but would like to get my old size back in some time with work.

After all the reading I have done Test E for 10 to 12 weeks at 250mg/ per week and some Nolva for several weeks PCT or as needed is that about right?

What are the costs involved roughly for something like that?

What about talking with the DR if any complications came up and consiquences of that should it be the case?

I have done lots of searching and readin over the last year on here and other places as well. I feel I might know just enough to be dangerous but not educated..hence the questions.I know rookie ass questions from a rookie...

[Bouncer]

At your age I wouldn't do "cycles" bro.

Your test levels are probably already pretty low. Even if you run very low dose like 250mgs per week. Your natural test levels will shut down and you will have a hell of a time getting the levels to come back to normal.

Guys your age pretty much stay on. Its called HRT or Hormone Replacement Therapy. You dont come off.

250mgs per week of test is a healthy dose that wont come with many sides. You will feel great on that type of dose.

[lipripper]

At your age I wouldn't do "cycles" bro.

Your test levels are probably already pretty low. Even if you run very low dose like 250mgs per week. Your natural test levels will shut down and you will have a hell of a time getting the levels to come back to normal.

Guys your age pretty much stay on. Its called HRT or Hormone Replacement Therapy. You dont come off.

250mgs per week of test is a healthy dose that wont come with many sides. You will feel great on that type of dose.

My understanding the cost of the HRT is a lot more though correct? and you have to stay on like ya said. I figured the test would shut me down but didnt realize it would be that hard getting back to normal.... good info.

[Bouncer]

My understanding the cost of the HRT is a lot more though correct? and you have to stay on like ya said. I figured the test would shut me down but didnt realize it would be that hard getting back to normal.... good info.

you can go with HRT from the doc that may be expensive or you can do your own HRT and get test from a source like most of us do. doing it yourself isnt very expensive no.

say a 10cc bottle of test cost $40-$60. you would be doing 1cc per week. so $40-$60 would last you 10 weeks. not very expensive if you ask me.

[lipripper]

you can go with HRT from the doc that may be expensive or you can do your own HRT and get test from a source like most of us do. doing it yourself isnt very expensive no.

say a 10cc bottle of test cost $40-$60. you would be doing 1cc per week. so $40-$60 would last you 10 weeks. not very expensive if you ask me.

I didnt realize it was that inexpensive. But from what your saying at my age it would be better to stay on then cycle with the test. and your actually calling it HRT due to the fact your staying "on" correct?

[Bouncer]

I didnt realize it was that inexpensive. But from what your saying at my age it would be better to stay on then cycle with the test. and your actually calling it HRT due to the fact your staying "on" correct?

yes HRT means exactly that. you replace your natural test with synthetic test because your natural test just isnt doing much for you anymore.

[lipripper]

yes HRT means exactly that. you replace your natural test with synthetic test because your natural test just isnt doing much for you anymore.

Got ya...

[Bouncer]

only difference would be 1 form of HRT would be prescribed by a doctor and cost you a shit load more. the other would be on your own and be cheap.

steroids in general are not expensive at all, its the GH that gets expensive.

[lipripper]

only difference would be 1 form of HRT would be prescribed by a doctor and cost you a shit load more. the other would be on your own and be cheap.

steroids in general are not expensive at all, its the GH that gets expensive.

Got ya, thats where I was confused I was thinking the GH was used as HRT.....

[Bouncer]

Got ya, thats where I was confused I was thinking the GH was used as HRT.....

well it can be. just like testosterone, GH levels fall as you get older. if you were to run something like 2iu gh per day you could consider that a form of HRT as well since since GH is a hormone and you are replacing your own.

[lipripper]

So as the natural levels decline the test takes over..how would using it as HRT effect the sex in the long run?

[Bouncer]

So as the natural levels decline the test takes over..how would using it as HRT effect the sex in the long run?

your sex life would improve no doubt about it. 250mgs per week would most likely be a higher dose that your natural levels are right now.

[lipripper]

well thats always a good thing...:hibb:

[blm]

well thats always a good thing...:hibb:

YOU HAVE NO IDEA!

[Mr I]

well thats always a good thing...:hibb:

you just gotta find a partner:rofl::rofl::rofl::retard: