If I were to add 1 compound to my Sust/GH cycle what should it be?

[crossconnect]

i think you are confusing masteron with Methasterone

Masteron is drostanolone prop, right? I'm trying for the first time right now. Well the enethate version anyway. I'm doing 200mg e3d, and preloaded 200mg eod for the first two weeks. I don't think it's really kicked in yet, but my arms feel like they are going to fucking explode half way thru a workout. I've been doing test e and eq at about 700mg each per week for far too long without a break (1.5 yrs almost). It's medical use was to combat estrogen when it was being commercially produced. It can't hurt and is considered pretty mild and non toxic. It's a dht dirvitive and all that that implies.

Bouncer, you're doing 525mg sust and pinning only once a week? Your hormone levels must be all over the place. Some guys swear by Ed shots, but looking at the esters, eod or e3d look logical to me with sust. Masteron won't put alot of size on you, but it would be quality lean muscle and might be what the dr ordered for your estrogen sensitivity. I would stay away from deca, it gave me bad sides. At 500mg a week I got consistent acne, along with alot of size and strength. Stayed on that and test e for 9 months, and had crazy cystic acne on my back, arms and chest but only after coming off. . If I ever do deca again, it will be no more than 250 ew. Well, good luck and be safe whichever you decide to try.

P.S. I tried dbol orally for the first time ever here recently and was pretty fucking impressed. I haven't tried it in the past because I was scared of bloat. It added a little water, but I needed some I think, I usually look pretty lean no matter what my diet is. Always been a hard gainer with low body fat. I think you've tried it before, if I remember correctly, but it might be just what you are looking for.

[Bouncer]

Masteron is drostanolone prop, right? I'm trying for the first time right now. Well the enethate version anyway. I'm doing 200mg e3d, and preloaded 200mg eod for the first two weeks. I don't think it's really kicked in yet, but my arms feel like they are going to fucking explode half way thru a workout. I've been doing test e and eq at about 700mg each per week for far too long without a break (1.5 yrs almost). It's medical use was to combat estrogen when it was being commercially produced. It can't hurt and is considered pretty mild and non toxic. It's a dht dirvitive and all that that implies.

Bouncer, you're doing 525mg sust and pinning only once a week? Your hormone levels must be all over the place. Some guys swear by Ed shots, but looking at the esters, eod or e3d look logical to me with sust. Masteron won't put alot of size on you, but it would be quality lean muscle and might be what the dr ordered for your estrogen sensitivity. I would stay away from deca, it gave me bad sides. At 500mg a week I got consistent acne, along with alot of size and strength. Stayed on that and test e for 9 months, and had crazy cystic acne on my back, arms and chest but only after coming off. . If I ever do deca again, it will be no more than 250 ew. Well, good luck and be safe whichever you decide to try.

P.S. I tried dbol orally for the first time ever here recently and was pretty fucking impressed. I haven't tried it in the past because I was scared of bloat. It added a little water, but I needed some I think, I usually look pretty lean no matter what my diet is. Always been a hard gainer with low body fat. I think you've tried it before, if I remember correctly, but it might be just what you are looking for.

Doing a sust/enath combo. 400mg sust / 125mg test e

Have gained weight better and faster then with enath alone. Up 15lbs in less then 2 weeks, if hormone levels are all over the place I can't tell. Mood is good all week, sex drive is consistant all week etc..

[ROCKETW19]

Doing a sust/enath combo. 400mg sust / 125mg test e

Have gained weight better and faster then with enath alone. Up 15lbs in less then 2 weeks, if hormone levels are all over the place I can't tell. Mood is good all week, sex drive is consistant all week etc..

ya I am guessing the extra test E is keeping your levels up high enough and stable enought that you dont notice the other 200mgs leave around day 3. the longer you stay on the less you will notic as the test E and deconate will build up higher and higher

[crossconnect]

ya I am guessing the extra test E is keeping your levels up high enough and stable enought that you dont notice the other 200mgs leave around day 3. the longer you stay on the less you will notic as the test E and deconate will build up higher and higher

Didn't know there was test e in there. I agree With your statement here Rocket, about the build up over time of the long esters becoming nice and stable in the blood. It still sounds like a lopsided combo to pin once every seven days. Bouncer, you must be young enough to get away with it. At my age I'm pretty sure I would be a mess. I am going to a short ester combo of test prop and tren ace here soon and pin that eod. Then I plan on taking a nice break this fall and winter. Bouncer, be sure and post up what you decide to add.

[Bouncer]

Didn't know there was test e in there. I agree With your statement here Rocket, about the build up over time of the long esters becoming nice and stable in the blood. It still sounds like a lopsided combo to pin once every seven days. Bouncer, you must be young enough to get away with it. At my age I'm pretty sure I would be a mess. I am going to a short ester combo of test prop and tren ace here soon and pin that eod. Then I plan on taking a nice break this fall and winter. Bouncer, be sure and post up what you decide to add.

are you just basing that of what paper says or actual experience.

i been on these boards for along time, long enough to see certain trends change. when i first joined elite back in 2000 it was very common and the norm for sust to be run once per week.

i think a lot of times people just start doing what others are doing and following the trend.

[ROCKETW19]

are you just basing that of what paper says or actual experience.

i been on these boards for along time, long enough to see certain trends change. when i first joined elite back in 2000 it was very common and the norm for sust to be run once per week.

i think a lot of times people just start doing what others are doing and following the trend.

I see what you are saying! you are saying you do not feel the drop in test. either did I. but I will bet my life you go test blood day after injection and then next time just before injecting again and your blood levels will be dramiticaly different

[Bouncer]

I see what you are saying! you are saying you do not feel the drop in test. either did I. but I will bet my life you go test blood day after injection and then next time just before injecting again and your blood levels will be dramiticaly different

If you don't feel the drop and you are gaining weight super fast who really cares? It's clear that even levels are not required for amazing gains. I have already gained more weight on my sust/Gh cycle then I did my entire 16 week test e cycle

[ROCKETW19]

ya didnt bother me either! I also didnt say I cared I was just rying to point out to you that Crossconnect has a valid pont about blood levels, he is right.
But as you I didnt feel it either got no weird sides so didnt care either.
I also made huge gains extreamly fast.
remember i called you and said WTF I been on 1 week and I am already jacked, you told me I was full of shit,lol now you see the power of your daddy always listen to me I know all.

[Bouncer]

Stop bragging that you call me. Make people jealous, everyone wanna talk to hormona god

[FitnessBrat]

Stop bragging that you call me. Make people jealous, everyone wanna talk to hormona god

lol...

[crossconnect]

are you just basing that of what paper says or actual experience.

i been on these boards for along time, long enough to see certain trends change. when i first joined elite back in 2000 it was very common and the norm for sust to be run once per week.

i think a lot of times people just start doing what others are doing and following the trend.

I'm basing it off the various esters and the half lives of each in the sust. Sust was my first cycle back in the day. Brought some home from cancun, the original preloaded syringes. I pinned 250mg once every five days and grew like crazy. I didn't have a choice, it was my first cycle. I felt like king kong the whole cycle but my receptors were fresh and I was young.

I always say less is better if it works for you. Less pinning sounds good too. Maybe I'm just too caught up with half lives and can back way down on my doses. I think I need to come off for a good while too. I've been around this site since 04 and you are the one of the original mods and I think you own the rights to this site. I'm not questioning your experience or knowledge. Just playing devils advocate. Everyone has a slightly different composition and affinity to juice. I do enjoy the round table discussions here.

[ROCKETW19]

Stop bragging that you call me. Make people jealous, everyone wanna talk to hormona god

well actually to tell ya the 100% truth I have never called you execpt maybe 1 time in my life you had actually called me,lol

[hitmansb]

My favorite cycle. You'll see many posts of mine with the same cycle. Even in low dosages it works great.

Agreed on the low doses working: I feel like a million bucks doing 250mg test cyp / 300mg EQ / 40mg var daily / 2iu GH daily

[inkslinger]

is there a long ester version of masteron? never used it

There is an enat version off master I think it comes in 100mg too, my thoughts would be. Eq or master ..I love masteron ...

[Bouncer]

I'm basing it off the various esters and the half lives of each in the sust. Maybe I'm just too caught up with half lives and can back way down on my doses.

sometimes people get to caught up in what something looks like on paper.

sust was never designed to be shot ED or EOD. It has become a fad on the forums to do that. sust has short esters and long esters. as the short esters stop working the long esters kick in.

think about it, people stopped using sust because it became unfashionable to do so. Test E and C has been promoted as "much more stable" but who gives a shit about stability if the gaines are not as great? like i said, i have gained more on this sust then i did my entrire last test e cycle.