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  • Coming off for six months

    As of september, enjoyed being on stronger, bigger, just want to give the body a break, no particular reason just feel like a change. Actually going to ramp it up initially before a team club.strongman at the end of the month, taper down a bit then come off september.

    Things I need to get organised are;

    Vitamin e
    ZMA
    Nolva
    Aromasim

    Training will change, lighter, tried staying heavy before, I can do it but feel injuries more, over time I will increase volume too, don't have time for cardio really so gonna inctease volume after a month.

  • #2
    Oh boy, you know what I think about it.

    To many steps back and mental fuck to go completely off. Why not low dose it?

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    • #3
      How long have you been on?

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      • #4
        run clomid @ 25mg ED or EoD till you go back on again. increase natty test into 800's for lot of ppl.



        u may have to watch e2 so u cud take an AI with it e3d low dose
        Last edited by jack tors; 07-19-12, 08:08 AM.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by jack tors
          run clomid @ 25mg ED or EoD till you go back on again. increase natty test into 800's for lot of ppl.

          u may have to watch e2 so u cud take an AI with it e3d low dose
          Clomid. Bah. Talk about turning into an emotional queer. Fuck that. Nolv only for me!

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          • #6
            Clomid made me an absolute mess. I'd get teared up watching cartoons, lol.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by blm View Post
              Clomid made me an absolute mess. I'd get teared up watching cartoons, lol.
              haha
              it wasnt the clomid you body crashed.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by THE BOUNCER View Post
                Clomid. Bah. Talk about turning into an emotional queer. Fuck that. Nolv only for me!
                not sure the sides of long term nolva, i know docs fertility clinics keep guys on clomid for years (if they dont get vision issues). just an alternative for someone whos not ready for trt.

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                • #9
                  If you're going to com off....then stay OFF. Give your body a break and let it kick start itself.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Ronin View Post
                    If you're going to com off....then stay OFF. Give your body a break and let it kick start itself.
                    is that what he said?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by jack tors View Post
                      haha
                      it wasnt the clomid you body crashed.
                      next time you come off run nolv instead of clomid and see if you dont recover the same with out all the emotional bs that comes with clomid.

                      nolv has been shown to restore just as well while also keeping gyno away. perfect drug for pct.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by jack tors

                        haha
                        it wasnt the clomid you body crashed.
                        No. That's clomid.

                        Same cycles after with nolva totally different.

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                        • #13
                          I been on six months probably, it's not like I'm 55, I'm mid 30 s, although clearly I've juiced on and off for twenty years lol.

                          I won't run clomid because of the sides, I'll run nolva and aromasin, I'm naturally estrogenic lol, I'll also cane the zma which is proven to increase test.

                          I know what your saying b, it's not as if I'm doing this for ever, just staying on perminent will be something I do when I'm older, maybe five or ten years time, we'll see. It's not as if I'm under any pressure to stay on.

                          If it's an awful experience then I might change but the way I see it, I've got all my strength back now so muscle memory is there, and it'll be there again

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                          • #14
                            truth be told, i just dont want to go through a couple month of you being off talking about the second coming of christ on bigfoots back or some shit.

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                            • #15
                              Lol don't worry bro, the thing I need to do is figure how to come off, I've got a.d. strongman even t on 29th. My mate who's in my team handed me a tub of anapolon said take two a day, so I guess I'm gonna blow up over the next ten days lol. After that I think I'll drop the test and run winny for a month hurst to harden a little, slim down, train light and retain some gains before coming off. This means the crash will be less

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