Tren E/Test E cycle

[Bouncer]

Hey guys, I've been on Low-T for 3 years. I've decide to run Tren E with my Test E. Im taking 250 of test e every week and 3 weeks ago I started Tren e at 200mg (I split theses 2 and take it on Monday and friday.). On the 3rd week I started feeling the tree, I looked great but felt like SHIAT! My heart was pounding I was out of breath in all my workouts and I had to cut down on the cardio. So I cut back on the Tren to 100 a week and kept the Test the same. Not much has changed. Should i just stop taking Tren E and stick to deca or EQ or am I doing something wrong?

it's your body adjusting to the new compound. when I added deca to my test cycle I felt like shit for a bit also. stay on the test and keep the tren at your new lower dose. give it a few more weeks.

no gyno right?

[lljoey84]

i need help! Please!!

Hey guys, I've been on Low-T for 3 years. I've decide to run Tren E with my Test E. Im taking 250 of test e every week and 3 weeks ago I started Tren e at 200mg (I split theses 2 and take it on Monday and friday.). On the 3rd week I started feeling the tree, I looked great but felt like SHIAT! My heart was pounding I was out of breath in all my workouts and I had to cut down on the cardio. So I cut back on the Tren to 100 a week and kept the Test the same. Not much has changed. Should i just stop taking Tren E and stick to deca or EQ or am I doing something wrong?

[Bluesteel]

i think ill try get my hands on som adex then, hopefully it will control estrogen sides while on the test and lower the bloating aswell wish me luck guys startin in a week from now provided i can find the adex wanna have everything on hand before i start:)

[BamBam179]

estrogen is needed for health and gains.

letro will completly kill off estorgen.

i would suggest low dose adex. will lower estro levels but not erase them.

That would be best but dam that stuff is expensive lol

[Bouncer]

na dont hav it anymore i already had it removed but still concerned that my estrogen is through the roof and im always bloated n retaining water and low sex drive etc.. most of the sides accociated with high estrogen including difficulty losing bf even with clean diet will letro do the trick or somethin a little less potent like arimidex for eg. thanks again lads for all the input always get good info off here

estrogen is needed for health and gains.

letro will completly kill off estorgen.

i would suggest low dose adex. will lower estro levels but not erase them.

[BamBam179]

na dont hav it anymore i already had it removed but still concerned that my estrogen is through the roof and im always bloated n retaining water and low sex drive etc.. most of the sides accociated with high estrogen including difficulty losing bf even with clean diet will letro do the trick or somethin a little less potent like arimidex for eg. thanks again lads for all the input always get good info off here

I would try nolva before letrozole. Ur levels may be high (blood tests?) But nolva blocks estroge at the receptors where as letro will just kill it along with possible sides. Nolva should help if ur 100% that its etrogen being your problem

[Bluesteel]

na dont hav it anymore i already had it removed but still concerned that my estrogen is through the roof and im always bloated n retaining water and low sex drive etc.. most of the sides accociated with high estrogen including difficulty losing bf even with clean diet will letro do the trick or somethin a little less potent like arimidex for eg. thanks again lads for all the input always get good info off here

[Bouncer]

ive had gyno put from puberty had it removed a while back its heaps better now but left my lower chest a little loose been tryin to tighten it for a while but its stubborn starting to think that my bf% is havin somethin to do with my high estrogen lvls why is it bad to use letrolets say in my instance?

if you trying to get rid of gyno then letro is fine to use.

[Bluesteel]

ive had gyno put from puberty had it removed a while back its heaps better now but left my lower chest a little loose been tryin to tighten it for a while but its stubborn starting to think that my bf% is havin somethin to do with my high estrogen lvls why is it bad to use letrolets say in my instance?

[BamBam179]

i did see a study somewhere saying letro raises test levels too. but the estrogen killing ability makes it to strong to ever consider using it for any other reason then to destroy pre existing gyno.

My thouhts exactly. Ive never had gyno issues but I always keep onhand if problem ever arises

[ROCKETW19]

i did see a study somewhere saying letro raises test levels too. but the estrogen killing ability makes it to strong to ever consider using it for any other reason then to destroy pre existing gyno.

ya I agree it was way to easy for me to kill off all my estrogen that I dont even know if I could dance that fine line of some and no estrogen.

Rado did the same thing killed all his estro and had to suffer why he recovered. yes he is a idiot but it is to easy to shut it off.

[Bouncer]

Letro is for gyno issues both estrogenic and progesterone over pct. The only increase in testosterone from letro I know of is from it inhibiting it from aromatising to estrogen. But if ur body isn't making it, it won't rise. Best pct I can suggest is hcg 500iu/week or broken into twice a week through out the duration of ur cycle. Since ur using long esters, I would probably continue use as far as 4 weeks after ur last aas pin. Then start nolva.

i did see a study somewhere saying letro raises test levels too. but the estrogen killing ability makes it to strong to ever consider using it for any other reason then to destroy pre existing gyno.

[BamBam179]

Letro is for gyno issues both estrogenic and progesterone over pct. The only increase in testosterone from letro I know of is from it inhibiting it from aromatising to estrogen. But if ur body isn't making it, it won't rise. Best pct I can suggest is hcg 500iu/week or broken into twice a week through out the duration of ur cycle. Since ur using long esters, I would probably continue use as far as 4 weeks after ur last aas pin. Then start nolva.

[Bluesteel]

all i got to go on is bro science lol so imma take your advice lads but still a little confused bout the pct so if im goin with tren and test i can run letro for pct without there being any prog issues? sorry for all the questions guys its jus that i really want this cycle to go very well an possibly take my physique to the next lvl so need to be well prepared:) cheers for all the posts so far very informative u guys really no ur shit!! thanks again

[Bouncer]

they also say kill estrogen and you can not get progestrone sides, that for me is false as shit but everyone says it????????

exactly and i agree.

thats what i mean about bro science. sometimes its legit most times its bs.