Quick question

[Bouncer]

Also, I was thinking, since my test levels are low the puffiness could still be due to the estrogen even tho its within range

True. Low test and normal estro levels = gyno situation.

[AllDay]

So B, you still recommend giving the letro a go first? .25mgs daily for first couple wks and adjust if necessary? And these sides rocket speaks of, are they real serious?

[Bouncer]

its one of those things bro. yes the letro may fix the gyno but it wont fix the real problem. if your test continues to be low and estro normal then you will always be in a state where you body wants to continue to make the gyno.

if i were you? i would get on some test and run super low dose letro like .25mgs EOD

[AllDay]

its one of those things bro. yes the letro may fix the gyno but it wont fix the real problem. if your test continues to be low and estro normal then you will always be in a state where you body wants to continue to make the gyno.

if i were you? i would get on some test and run super low dose letro like .25mgs EOD

Ok. I had just read your posts where you told others to come completely off everything until the letro has handled the gyno then begin their cycle. I also have nolva on hand for possible intra cycle issues as well as PCT. i dont mean to be a headache, just want to know which way to go with this.

[Bouncer]

Ok. I had just read your posts where you told others to come completely off everything until the letro has handled the gyno then begin their cycle. I also have nolva on hand for possible intra cycle issues as well as PCT. i dont mean to be a headache, just want to know which way to go with this.

you are in a different situation because it sounds like your natural state is what is creating the gyno. you need to handle the cause of the gyno which is most likely low test with normal estro levels.

[AllDay]

you are in a different situation because it sounds like your natural state is what is creating the gyno. you need to handle the cause of the gyno which is most likely low test with normal estro levels.

Yes, that is what we are speculating. So hows this sound? I begin my cycle as planned and run the letro at .25mgs EOD (until gyno is gone, then discontinue letro??) and begin to use 10mg nolva if nipps get sensitive after that. Then follow normal PCT protocol with nolva if I decide to come off the test, which is undetermined at this point.

[Bouncer]

Sounds good.

[AllDay]

Sounds good.

Thanks for dealing with all my questions man, it is appreciated. One final thing, since the letro will be at such a low dose it wont be necssary to taper from .25eod, i can just stop?

[BamBam179]

Letro actually has been shown in studies to reduce both estrogen and progestrone.give it a try. Should work imo

[Bouncer]

Thanks for dealing with all my questions man, it is appreciated. One final thing, since the letro will be at such a low dose it wont be necssary to taper from .25eod, i can just stop?

Yup

[AllDay]

Letro actually has been shown in studies to reduce both estrogen and progestrone.give it a try. Should work imo

Good to know my dude, thanks

[ROCKETW19]

Letro actually has been shown in studies to reduce both estrogen and progestrone.give it a try. Should work imo

can you post that link?

there is a rumor that kill estrogen and progestron will go also. well I will tell ya first hand that is not fuckin true I killed all estrogen in me and still had progestrone gyno. I used letro to do it also. the only thing that I used that worked was caber. I decided to just keep my tren low and not worrie about that shit.

zero estrogen is worse than anything you ever had on cycle except maybe bouncers drippy dick,lol

[Bouncer]

i would tend to agree with rocket here once again. Christ.

[ROCKETW19]

i would tend to agree with rocket here once again. Christ.

thats fuckin bull shit stop being nice call me fat and old I do not like bouncer the nice guy. I like bouncer the butcher

[BamBam179]

can you post that link

Been awhile since I read up on it. Let me try to find it:)