Bridging Advice...

[AllDay]

Ok guys, Im going to cut to the chase.

I got the gel prescribed to me for my low T. However, I didnt use it and injected myself with 200mg wk, but the doc doesnt know that. I have went from 185 to 205lbs during this time. Went back to doc to get blood levels checked and after 10 wks on 200mg my levels were through the roof. Total test was >1500 and free test was 43. All this is fine because I was planning on scaling back the dose after 12 wks. I plan on upping my dose again for a spring cutter but for now I want my levels to be normal and give my body a break. Should I PCT with nolva and use the gel until my next cycle or simply drop to 100mg wk and without doing any PCT until I up my dose again? Thanks

[dago]

Ok guys, Im going to cut to the chase.

I got the gel prescribed to me for my low T. However, I didnt use it and injected myself with 200mg wk, but the doc doesnt know that. I have went from 185 to 205lbs during this time. Went back to doc to get blood levels checked and after 10 wks on 200mg my levels were through the roof. Total test was >1500 and free test was 43. All this is fine because I was planning on scaling back the dose after 12 wks. I plan on upping my dose again for a spring cutter but for now I want my levels to be normal and give my body a break. Should I PCT with nolva and use the gel until my next cycle or simply drop to 100mg wk and without doing any PCT until I up my dose again? Thanks

Drop the test run a solid pct protocol with nolva as posted on the board and jack off with the gel. From what I've been told 1500 is just the cut off level from the lab unless you request they get a exact number for you. At 1500 they just stop there so you could have been higher I did the same thing with my first test cycle 250mg test-e a week levels came back 1500 ugl gear tho..

[ROCKETW19]

Ok guys, Im going to cut to the chase.

I got the gel prescribed to me for my low T. However, I didnt use it and injected myself with 200mg wk, but the doc doesnt know that. I have went from 185 to 205lbs during this time. Went back to doc to get blood levels checked and after 10 wks on 200mg my levels were through the roof. Total test was >1500 and free test was 43. All this is fine because I was planning on scaling back the dose after 12 wks. I plan on upping my dose again for a spring cutter but for now I want my levels to be normal and give my body a break. Should I PCT with nolva and use the gel until my next cycle or simply drop to 100mg wk and without doing any PCT until I up my dose again? Thanks

if you run the gel dont need to do PCT with nolva as you are not comming off.
If you plan to stay on then run the gel as a bridge or 150mgs per week and that will keep you close to HRT dose.

[dago]

if you run the gel dont need to do PCT with nolva as you are not comming off.
If you plan to stay on then run the gel as a bridge or 150mgs per week and that will keep you close to HRT dose.

you really think the gel is worth using for anything in the athletic world at all? I gave 4 bottlez of it away

[Bouncer]

just drop to 100mg a week no pct needed.

[AllDay]

Thanks for the insight guys.

Dago, it is really not a question of whether or not the gel has any athletic benefit because I know it doesnt. I am speaking from a HRT standpoint and injecting 100mg wk isnt going to have any athletic benefit either. My levels were low and I do not want to feel like crap again so I cant come TOTALLY off anyway. I just want to give my body a break from excessive levels. Are we all in agreement that 100mg a wk would get me within range? If I do decide to bridge with gel should I wait 3 wks before I start it to allow the test E to clear?

[Bouncer]

Are we all in agreement that 100mg a wk would get me within range? If I do decide to bridge with gel should I wait 3 wks before I start it to allow the test E to clear?

yes 100mg per week will put you in normal range.

nah no need to wait, the test e will slowly leave your system.

[ROCKETW19]

you really think the gel is worth using for anything in the athletic world at all? I gave 4 bottlez of it away

no worth less good choice giving it away. but for trt it works I would just perfer to inject

[ROCKETW19]

Thanks for the insight guys.

Dago, it is really not a question of whether or not the gel has any athletic benefit because I know it doesnt. I am speaking from a HRT standpoint and injecting 100mg wk isnt going to have any athletic benefit either. My levels were low and I do not want to feel like crap again so I cant come TOTALLY off anyway. I just want to give my body a break from excessive levels. Are we all in agreement that 100mg a wk would get me within range? If I do decide to bridge with gel should I wait 3 wks before I start it to allow the test E to clear?

no I think 100mgs gets you on the lower end. My doc has me on 150mgs and i am only just under 1000. I belive most places use 1200 as max for normal levels. I bet i could squeek in 25mgs more and still be under.
I would start at 150 and see how you feel. I will tell ya I do not like it very much I much perfer 250. I do it just cuz of testing I dont want my doc freaking out.

[ROCKETW19]

good question on the gel. I prob agree with B just start it when your next shot is due.
If $ allows i would just run injectable my Doc gave me choice but even said the gel is stupid. Neither were covered by insurance so it was easy for me to just inject.
I got made in the USA pharma test E and injected 150 mgs for a few weeks tested my levels and I was 9hunder something almost 1000. I then waited untill next test swapped over to UGL ran it at 150mgs for a few weeks and tested almost exactly the same. I did mess up and should of went to 200 but I was comparing the UGL to pharma. maybe next test I will try 200 and get results

side note this is me I am sure 150 will put you same range as me but only way to know is test. good luck bro I just had a small taste of what you feel like a few months back and I did not like it one bit so hope all works for ya cuz it sucked.

[AllDay]

good question on the gel. I prob agree with B just start it when your next shot is due.
If $ allows i would just run injectable my Doc gave me choice but even said the gel is stupid. Neither were covered by insurance so it was easy for me to just inject.
I got made in the USA pharma test E and injected 150 mgs for a few weeks tested my levels and I was 9hunder something almost 1000. I then waited untill next test swapped over to UGL ran it at 150mgs for a few weeks and tested almost exactly the same. I did mess up and should of went to 200 but I was comparing the UGL to pharma. maybe next test I will try 200 and get results

side note this is me I am sure 150 will put you same range as me but only way to know is test. good luck bro I just had a small taste of what you feel like a few months back and I did not like it one bit so hope all works for ya cuz it sucked.

Appreciate the knowledge bro and yes it does sucks. Even though my levels are high I feel great but I have to get mine back in range for reason you mentioned. To keep the doc happy. I had much rather inject because the gel is an unnecessary hassle. I think Im going to drop it to 100mg and see how that goes. Thanks again

[blm]

Why don't you tell the doc you have daily contact with a child. You can't use the gel and be in direct contact with a child. Maybe he will starting giving you injections.

[ROCKETW19]

Why don't you tell the doc you have daily contact with a child. You can't use the gel and be in direct contact with a child. Maybe he will starting giving you injections.

yup many people use the same thing.