Cycle 2013

[losieloos]

Nice log, kepp us updated.

[ROCKETW19]

I had to sacrifice some size so I could get a little leaner! Im happy you noticed. I went from 195 to 185..have no idea what is my bf now compared with before. All I did was lowered my carb intake and up on the protein. I've been on rip for a month now. I dont know if it is in my head but I believe the gh evem though I lost 10 pounds helped me hold some size. Last weekI felt a luttle pain in my hands but it only lasted 2 days.To be honest I havent been to consistent with the right dosage. Most of the days I took 4 ius a day but I had couple days where I took 5 or even 6 iu a day. I can wait to start the as to see what is gonna happen when I mix gh + test + tren. For now I can tell you I am liking the gh, but as far as the health side I didnt notice anything yet. Maybe I will when I stop taking it in 5 months lol. I did my best to get leaner before starting the as, now lets see what will happen!

Ya Gh is the only drug that will help you cut weight and hold size with out being perfect on diet. well tren also,lol
cant wsait to see you pop on 10 lbs and stay ripped

[ROCKETW19]

by the way abs are looking way more defined great job bro. did you end up taking GH? how did you like it if so?

[ROCKETW19]

Lol I appreciate all the answers guys even though im still a little confused! As soon as we all get to a conclusion I wont lol. So to finish this... how often the sus? Every 5 days as b said? And when to start the test enan? Lol you guys are getting me more confused than helping :rofl:

By the way I was thinking on making this cycle a little longer but im scared of the afterparty lol scared my test level wont come up anymore after! Lol

IMO you have 3 ways to go now we might never agree cuz its mostly our opinion mine is a bit more fact based but still my opinion heres they are from best to worst

take sust EOD like its made to take ( most stable )
take 50/50 split test E and sust (like kick starting a cycle)
do as B said every 5 days (may never notice but blood all over the place)

these are facts you can look up the esters yourseld and figure it out
there is slight difference in all choices and you might not feel any difference but there is.

[ROCKETW19]

because mixing will result in a higher dose during the transition and a lower dose once you remove the sust because of the fast esters being removed. that in itself is a fluctuation and thus not really a better alternative.

yes just like bump starting a cycle with dbol at the start you have more drug then end at your chosen dosage.

if you start sust only and dont shoot it EOD his test will be like a roller coaster he may or may not notice but inside its all crazy. My way is more stable still roller coaster but less highs and lows.

[Bouncer]

yes it will "hold" him over I agree but then why not mix and hold over better? why take every 5 day over 7 cuz I am guessing he is looking fom maxium benifits with minium sides.

because mixing will result in a higher dose during the transition and a lower dose once you remove the sust because of the fast esters being removed. that in itself is a fluctuation and thus not really a better alternative.

[ROCKETW19]

there is always going to be a bit of an overlap or an underlap because of the fast esters. the slow esters in the sust will be enough to "hold you over" until the cyp catches up.

yes it will "hold" him over I agree but then why not mix and hold over better? why take every 5 day over 7 cuz I am guessing he is looking fom maxium benifits with minium sides.

[ROCKETW19]

I didn't see that you said that. I would do that as well. Why wouldn't you start with test-e and finish with the sus?

sust will kick start his cycle in a week over waiting the 3-4 weeks. I did that last time and loved it. like using dbol but you dont have to take shit dbol lol

[Bouncer]

not really. when there are no more fast esters he will be mising half his dose untill the test e catches up

JUST MIX THE 2 and be done with it damn rookies

there is always going to be a bit of an overlap or an underlap because of the fast esters. the slow esters in the sust will be enough to "hold you over" until the cyp catches up.

[FrankTheTank55]

he will still have the slow esters from the sust in him but I would not just switch I would mix it in like i just said. keep things more staedy.

I didn't see that you said that. I would do that as well. Why wouldn't you start with test-e and finish with the sus?

[ROCKETW19]

spikes is the test will cause spikes in estrogen and other sides. estrogen is not just a looks thing it is also not healthy. sure a few weeks wont kill ya but sometijg to think about

[ROCKETW19]

No bro, that's not how it works. There is already long acting esters in the sust. So once he switches from sust to enth the test has already built up in the system.

not really. when there are no more fast esters he will be mising half his dose untill the test e catches up

JUST MIX THE 2 and be done with it damn rookies

[ROCKETW19]

Won't he have a gap for a couple weeks going from sus to enanthate? Its going to take a couple weeks for the enanthate to kick in. And the sus will be mostly out of his system.

he will still have the slow esters from the sust in him but I would not just switch I would mix it in like i just said. keep things more staedy.

[Bouncer]

Won't he have a gap for a couple weeks going from sus to enanthate? Its going to take a couple weeks for the enanthate to kick in. And the sus will be mostly out of his system.

No bro, that's not how it works. There is already long acting esters in the sust. So once he switches from sust to enth the test has already built up in the system.

[FrankTheTank55]

nope, test is test bro. the sust will get the test in your body, just switch right over.

Won't he have a gap for a couple weeks going from sus to enanthate? Its going to take a couple weeks for the enanthate to kick in. And the sus will be mostly out of his system.