How long before you see the mass benefits of tren????

[spidey]

Originally posted by prolangtum
Tren is poor IMO for putting on pure mass. Testosterone is still king, tren + test is great for mass though

Many would disagree, including myself. I get nothing but sides from test but tren gives me gains in both strength and mass with very few sides. Everyone will react differently to any particular AS.

[Nekrawulf]

At 100 mg a day i was getting severe axiety, sleep was a blessing, and damn if i didnt sweat a lot... Ill definately use it in a cutting cycle.... but i dont think ill use it again in a bulking cycle...

[Dooley]

Originally posted by spidey
Many would disagree, including myself. I get nothing but sides from test but tren gives me gains in both strength and mass with very few sides. Everyone will react differently to any particular AS.

Just out of curiosity Spidey.. did you use any other protection while you were on just the tren. IE nizoral or anything else at all? Or were you simply taking 50mg's/day and eating like crazy? Did you notice your libido drop quickly before you added the prop? I think it's pretty crazy that you gained so much so fast on a low dose. I like the idea of low doses for short periods of time. Any more input would be appreciated.

[SuperHUMAN]

im on 100mgs on prop and 50mg tren ed for 6 weks.. its been 4 days and im up 5lbs! i know its mostly water, but damn i love seeing the scale go up!!! i upped the nolva so hopefully i kill most of the water retention! peace

[latimer99]

i gain a good 5-8lbs from 8wks tren 150mgs eod. tren is excellent for fat loss, vascularity, and strength, but not for size...imo

[spidey]

Originally posted by Dooley
Just out of curiosity Spidey.. did you use any other protection while you were on just the tren. IE nizoral or anything else at all? Or were you simply taking 50mg's/day and eating like crazy? Did you notice your libido drop quickly before you added the prop? I think it's pretty crazy that you gained so much so fast on a low dose. I like the idea of low doses for short periods of time. Any more input would be appreciated.

I did use Nizoral shampoo twice a week. I had planned on using a topical spiro that I made up but I kept forgetting and so I only used it maybe once every two weeks; I doubt it did much because of the infrequent usage. I wasn't taking any anti-e's at all.

[Dooley]

Interesting... thanks bro!