NPP

[dago]

nandrolone phenyl prop anyone used it? 100mg ml I used the deca slow ester shit back in the day takes to long imo been reading on different compounds just wondering if anyone has any real experience with this. I have heard good things about it the ester would be about an every 4 day injection if i'm correct.

[blm]

Found this....


NPP was never really all that popular simply because of availability issues. Many of the pharmacy grade NPP products range between 25mg-50mg/ml and are extremely expensive. Naturally, this limited its use among the bodybuilding crowd. Mexico and the underground did not bother producing it.

The recent increase in popularity of NPP can be attributed to the introduction of BM's Dubol-100; the first affordable pharmacy grade 100mg/ml NPP. Eventually, more and more Underground Labs started producing the forgotten drug.

phenylprop vs decanoate.

Here is some interesting information from Andy13:

"Let's calculate the amount accumulated in the body after 6 weeks of 500mg/deca. Let's say you inject it once a week and we'll give it a 1.5-week half-life. Note that injection frequency makes a huge difference in blood concentration stability but no difference in amount of esterified in the system

E (greek letter "sigma") 500*e^(ln(1/2)n/1.5) from n=0 to n=6. So after 6 weeks, about 1300mg of esterified nandrolone remain in the body.

Now lets see how long, after the initial injection, it takes to reduce to a small enough amount that permits recovery.

1300*e^(ln(1/2)n/1.5) After 3 weeks, 325 mg of esterified remain

after 6 weeks, 81 mg of esterified remain.

After 8 weeks, 32mg of esterified remain."

nandrolone decanoate is a long acting depot; it takes quite a while for it to "kick in" and clear out of the system. Depending on how much is used; it will take at least 4-6 weeks after the last shot for deca to clear out. It also takes about 4 weeks for active blood levels to stabilize. This can easily add up to 8-10 weeks of "dead time" i.e. periods of time when blood levels are not consistent. These numbers apply to reasonable use of nandrolone decanoate; between 200-400mg a week. The more you use, the worst it gets. So a 10-week cycle of deca can easily end up been a 16-week cycle when you account for clearance time (active blood levels). The first 4 weeks are also somewhat of a waste of time.

So that 10-week cycle ends up been 16 weeks; 6 weeks of optimal blood levels and 10 weeks of dead time. Not a very effective way to cycle.

With NPP, you can bypass all that dead time.
19-Nortestosterone based drugs are known to shutdown HPTA very easily - think Trenbolone. Most bodybuilders will use tren for around 6 weeks at the beginning of a cycle. NPP should be used in a similar manner.

Here's an example of a balanced cycle consisting of NPP

W1-6: dbol
W1-6: NPP
W1-8: test Prop

It is a good idea to run test 2 weeks past the NPP, however; NPP can be used as a stand-alone.

Earlier, I compared NPP to tren. They are similar in some ways but tren is much more androgenic and stronger in general.

NPP shares some of the same sides associated with deca (they are after all the same base compound). It should be noted that most of the sides that come with deca are a result of its long ester. decanoate ester is very hard to control and nandrolone side effects are not easily countered like Testosterone related sides (Tamoxifen, anastrozole, finasteride...)

Overall, nandrolone is a milder compound than Testosterone and is better mg for mg (but that's a matter of opinion)

nandrolone phenylprop should be injected at least every 3 days. A typical dose is 350mg-700mg a week for 5-8 weeks.

It stacks very well with Winstrol, dbol, test, EQ, Anavar

It does not stack well with tren and especially Anadrol.

[dago]

I read that blm I had some of that GPL sust 400 last year that had that phenylprop in shit was good made me wonder about this version of nandrlone with this ester attached to it. Somebody told me give it a try I'd like it.

[blm]

I read that blm I had some of that GPL sust 400 last year that had that phenylprop in shit was good made me wonder about this version of nandrlone with this ester attached to it. Somebody told me give it a try I'd like it.

I just picked some up I'll be trying it in a few weeks.

[dago]

I just picked some up I'll be trying it in a few weeks.

What dose and how often you gonna inject? Start a log on it or something if you don't care im interested in this

[blm]

What dose and how often you gonna inject? Start a log on it or something if you don't care im interested in this

150 e3d. No log.

[Roider]

I used NPP with Omnadren e3d:-)

[ROCKETW19]

150 e3d. No log.

keep us posted on it! I cant used deca it blows my mips up so I am curious what you think of this stuff.

dont think I would ever try it but I would still like your opinion on it specialy if it helps joints

[blm]

keep us posted on it! I cant used deca it blows my mips up so I am curious what you think of this stuff.

dont think I would ever try it but I would still like your opinion on it specialy if it helps joints

I'll give an update. Just no running log. I'm still using deca 300 ew so it will be awhile. The deca is a miracle compound. No issues with the tendinitis in both elbows or my rotator cuff. Have tell myself to not over due because it's so pain free yet I know the existing issues.

[ROCKETW19]

I'll give an update. Just no running log. I'm still using deca 300 we so it will be awhile. The deca is a miracle compound. No issues with the tendinitis in both elbows or my rotator cuff. Have tell myself to not over due because it's so pain free yet I know the existing issues.

damn i wish my elbow pain would go away. maybe i try a bouncer experment and use 100mgs deca

[Mr I]

In answer to your question I've used it before.

My experience of it was essentially analogous to propionate version of test with regards to sides; less bloat, less gyno etc.

However, hard to articulate this but, nandrolones application regardless of ester is one of slow progressive gains in mass. For this reason there is little logic in running it for only 6 or even 8 weeks, messes to be run for longer say 16 weeks, and over this period, is a.shorter ester really going to be that much more useful to justify the extra cost of more frequent injections, apart.from the reduced sides I noticed?