Need libido help please

[casby]

I'm actually asking for a good buddy of mine. He's been on a 6 month long cycle, the first 20 weeks was test only at 250mgs/wk and the last 6 weeks was 300mgs/wk test and 300mgs/wk eq. He's been having low libido throughout the whole 26 weeks, but about half way through he started taking arimidex and said it helped a bit.
Now he's been on 40mgs/day nolva for his PCT for the last 4 weeks, and he just told me he still can't get up. I thought for sure the nolva would take care of it as it always has with me in the past within the first week or so.

What would be the next step? Since he was on such a long cycle (6 months), would it take that much longer for the natural levels to come back?

[Chadd77]

He will not be fully recovered in 4 weeks. Sounds like he is still running his pct. Everyone is a little different but my guess is that it may take closer to 2-3 months.

[blm]

Definitely run the pct longer.

Everyone is indeed different. It sounds like he reacted like me to an test/eq cycle. His test should have been double the the eq, imo. When I ran eq it shut me down completely (my dick was like a wet noodle) even with my test doubled. Tren and deca didn't even do that to me. But when I removed the eq, my libido and erection was back within a week or so. Crazy shit.

[Mr I]

Tough

Sorry but in terms of libido unless you want too start running drugs like ipt etc your just gonna have to wait it out. If its a relationship issue, use cialis to get you through

[blm]

Tough

Sorry but in terms of libido your just gonna have to wait it out. If its a relationship issue, use cialis to get you through

Agreed. Such a shitty feeling too.

[jack tors]

How old is he? He probably started pct too soon. If he ran the eq to the end I'd wait 3 weeks for pct. so he's really done 3 weeks of pct.

[casby]

Definitely run the pct longer.

Everyone is indeed different. It sounds like he reacted like me to an test/eq cycle. His test should have been double the the eq, imo. When I ran eq it shut me down completely (my dick was like a wet noodle) even with my test doubled. Tren and deca didn't even do that to me. But when I removed the eq, my libido and erection was back within a week or so. Crazy shit.

right on, thanks. i'll tell him to stay on for as long as it takes. I just thought he would of felt some improvement by now, but i guess he needs more time

How old is he? He probably started pct too soon. If he ran the eq to the end I'd wait 3 weeks for pct. so he's really done 3 weeks of pct.

he's 27 and he started pct 3 weeks after last shot, and yes, he ran both eq and test right to the end.

[casby]

so obviously the standard 40/40/20/20 pct split goes out the window. what dose would you recommend? stay on 40mgs until he feels libido go up then cut back to 20mgs for a couple more weeks?

[jack tors]

I've been there...goes to show you age doesnt always matter. Nolva only hasnt been good enough for me coming of a long run like that with harsh compounds.

I'd add clomid @ 50mg ED for another 3-4 weeks. Cialis too: a low dose everyday or full dose as needed or EOD

If it were me the next four weeks i'd do something like this...
Nolva 40\20\20\20
Clomid 100\50\50\25

Has he ever used clomid?

[ROCKETW19]

I'm actually asking for a good buddy of mine. He's been on a 6 month long cycle, the first 20 weeks was test only at 250mgs/wk and the last 6 weeks was 300mgs/wk test and 300mgs/wk eq. He's been having low libido throughout the whole 26 weeks, but about half way through he started taking arimidex and said it helped a bit.
Now he's been on 40mgs/day nolva for his PCT for the last 4 weeks, and he just told me he still can't get up. I thought for sure the nolva would take care of it as it always has with me in the past within the first week or so.

What would be the next step? Since he was on such a long cycle (6 months), would it take that much longer for the natural levels to come back?

IMO a 20 week cycle should have HCG in it. I would also never stop two or more drugs same time. always end with test for a few weeks on its own. then still wait 3 weeks to start PCT (depending dose)
have him run his PCT a extra week or two then just wait it out.
I do not know anyone that comes right outta PCT and back to normal it takes a few weeks

[ROCKETW19]

Definitely run the pct longer.

Everyone is indeed different. It sounds like he reacted like me to an test/eq cycle. His test should have been double the the eq, imo. When I ran eq it shut me down completely (my dick was like a wet noodle) even with my test doubled. Tren and deca didn't even do that to me. But when I removed the eq, my libido and erection was back within a week or so. Crazy shit.

wow EQ did that to you? thats crazy you sure it was EQ,lol

[blm]

wow EQ did that to you? thats crazy you sure it was EQ,lol

You have a terrible memory. We discussed this in great length. Definitely the eq, couldn't have been anything else.

[jack tors]

You have a terrible memory. We discussed this in great length. Definitely the eq, couldn't have been anything else.

i had the same problem with eq and also with tren. never with deca though

[casby]

I've been there...goes to show you age doesnt always matter. Nolva only hasnt been good enough for me coming of a long run like that with harsh compounds.

I'd add clomid @ 50mg ED for another 3-4 weeks. Cialis too: a low dose everyday or full dose as needed or EOD

If it were me the next four weeks i'd do something like this...
Nolva 40\20\20\20
Clomid 100\50\50\25

Has he ever used clomid?

no, he's never used clomid. i don't see how clomid added in the mix would change anything. Don't they do the same thing? but I told him to take nolve at 40mgs for a couple more weeks, then go down to 20mgs for another 2 or 3 weeks and see if he's improving

[casby]

IMO a 20 week cycle should have HCG in it. I would also never stop two or more drugs same time. always end with test for a few weeks on its own. then still wait 3 weeks to start PCT (depending dose)
have him run his PCT a extra week or two then just wait it out.
I do not know anyone that comes right outta PCT and back to normal it takes a few weeks

i mentioned to him after his first test cycle that if he continued, he should consider HCG, but he wanted to wing it. He's a bit stubborn like that.
so you don't think staying on the nolva for another month would be beneficial? even if his dick isn't working after 2 weeks, he should wait it out naturally?