Igf Lr3 update

[AllDay]

Just wanted to update you guys on my run. This was the first time I've had any experience with peptides. I have never tried hgh so I can't compare it to that but I will say I have been extremely impressed with the results thus far. I am 3 weeks in @ 33.3 mcgs on workout days, which is 6 days per week. The pump is unlike anything I've experienced, the recovery time is absolutely stupid. I can do a killer workout and within four hours I literally could go back to the gym and workout again. I have not lost any weight, actually gained a couple pounds, but My wife has even commented on how much more defined I am. I have had no sides except for a persistent cough that came on as I began the igf. Even though it has subsided I still attribute the cough to the igf because within thirty minutes of taking it the cough would worsen and it would begin to decipitate after about 12-15 hours, I know, weird! All in all though, it has been great and has complimented my current aas cycle of 400mgs test e really well. I am currently on week 11 and I'm planning on going to 15. I have heard that running igf during pct can help retain gains, any truth to this?

[Ashop]

The cough is truly odd. Keep us posted on how you do.

[ROCKETW19]

Just wanted to update you guys on my run. This was the first time I've had any experience with peptides. I have never tried hgh so I can't compare it to that but I will say I have been extremely impressed with the results thus far. I am 3 weeks in @ 33.3 mcgs on workout days, which is 6 days per week. The pump is unlike anything I've experienced, the recovery time is absolutely stupid. I can do a killer workout and within four hours I literally could go back to the gym and workout again. I have not lost any weight, actually gained a couple pounds, but My wife has even commented on how much more defined I am. I have had no sides except for a persistent cough that came on as I began the igf. Even though it has subsided I still attribute the cough to the igf because within thirty minutes of taking it the cough would worsen and it would begin to decipitate after about 12-15 hours, I know, weird! All in all though, it has been great and has complimented my current aas cycle of 400mgs test e really well. I am currently on week 11 and I'm planning on going to 15. I have heard that running igf during pct can help retain gains, any truth to this?

Ya I agree with Alin the cough is weird actually never heard of that before?
sounds like you have good IGF do you mind me askin where you got from? I have found research companys to be very hit and miss this is only reason I want to know so I can help the next guy.

they say IGF stops or at least really slows after 30-40 days I never went past 40 but If you gonna run in PCT make sure you get a break first then run again.
I have used both IGF and GH in PCT you will keep your size but it will not help you recover your natty test

[AllDay]

Right on Rocket, I am staying on the 4 weeks on/ 4 weeks off protocol which will put me off until my aas cycle ends.

I will DM you my source as I don't know site rules on posting that info to the public even though they are not illegal. I don't want to sound as if I am promoting a particular company.

One more thing, when I finish up this 15 wk cycle of test I'm going to be shut down pretty hard. I do have HCG on hand to begin taking after my cycle along with Nolvadex. What dose protocol should I follow for hcg as I have never used it before?

[ROCKETW19]

Run the hcg now 250-500 ius 3 days after injection of your reg steroids. Run it to the day you start pct but do not run it in pct
You will have to experment with dose take first one at 500ius since you been on gear awhile

[AllDay]

Run the hcg now 250-500 ius 3 days after injection of your reg steroids. Run it to the day you start pct but do not run it in pct
You will have to experment with dose take first one at 500ius since you been on gear awhile

So don't use hcg during pct? How does that work exactly to get your hpta functioning properly again. When thinking about it, when you inject testosterone it tells your testes to stop producing testerone within the body but then you throw in the hcg at the same time it's sending the opposite signal to your body saying to produce your own testosterone. Therefore you are sending very conflicting messages to the body at the same time. Seems like running it pct would make more sense. I'm definitely not trying to be a smartass, simply trying to understand how not running it pct is of benefit. Thanks for the insight

[ROCKETW19]

In simplest terms I can think. Hcg is also suppressive .

Your way of though is super old school it has been proven to be no good.
Your body fights to stay in balance everyday it's used to all the fucked up signals, lol
They are actually very natural signals your not confusing your body or anything weird!

I hope you end up trusting me on this one. Or if you google any recent hcg study's you'll see I'm right.
Saying that, that don't mean your way won't work for you! I'm just saying there's much better options

[AllDay]

In simplest terms I can think. Hcg is also suppressive .

Your way of though is super old school it has been proven to be no good.
Your body fights to stay in balance everyday it's used to all the fucked up signals, lol
They are actually very natural signals your not confusing your body or anything weird!

I hope you end up trusting me on this one. Or if you google any recent hcg study's you'll see I'm right.
Saying that, that don't mean your way won't work for you! I'm just saying there's much better options

Man, I'm going to trust you no doubt. You have tons more experience than me and what you're saying does make sense. I was just not understanding the benefit of taking it during cycle.So tell me how this looks:

Weeks 11-15 Test E @400mgs on mondays

Weeks 11-18 500 IU HCG on Thursdays (til wk 18 bc this is officially when Pct will start bc test e will just now be out of my system)

once I begin pct now, do you recommend Nolvadex only or do you also implement clomid?

[ROCKETW19]

Man, I'm going to trust you no doubt. You have tons more experience than me and what you're saying does make sense. I was just not understanding the benefit of taking it during cycle.So tell me how this looks:

Weeks 11-15 Test E @400mgs on mondays

Weeks 11-18 500 IU HCG on Thursdays (til wk 18 bc this is officially when Pct will start bc test e will just now be out of my system)

once I begin pct now, do you recommend Nolvadex only or do you also implement clomid?

yes that will work and that is what I would do if in your shoes right now.

I always used clomid with PCT I never got the sides other do. If money for the clomid is no issue then I say use it. or if you have a hard time recovering. but if I had to choose one or the other it would be nolvadex

[ROCKETW19]

are your balls shrunk? if so you are shut down pretty good and you will see how good HCG works. they will plump right back up in no time,lol

[AllDay]

are your balls shrunk? if so you are shut down pretty good and you will see how good HCG works. they will plump right back up in no time,lol

Good to hear. Yes, they are, lol. Your advice is always appreciated

[ROCKETW19]

Good to hear. Yes, they are, lol. Your advice is always appreciated

If really bad start of the week shooting the 500ius 2 times days dont matter monday and thusday work. then 2nd week go back to your regular plan

[AllDay]

If really bad start of the week shooting the 500ius 2 times days dont matter monday and thusday work. then 2nd week go back to your regular plan

Cool, will do! Doc had placed me on trt as you already know but I truly believe I simply never recovered from my first cycle. I've not been on the trt plan long, just for the last year and during that time I upped my test dose to 300-400 mgs for a total of 5 months. I really just want to give my receptors a break because I keep hearing that your body will build up tolerance for the test and not respond as well. Is this true or old school thinking as well? I know you are on trt too Rocket, do you still use hcg at all?

[ROCKETW19]

Cool, will do! Doc had placed me on trt as you already know but I truly believe I simply never recovered from my first cycle. I've not been on the trt plan long, just for the last year and during that time I upped my test dose to 300-400 mgs for a total of 5 months. I really just want to give my receptors a break because I keep hearing that your body will build up tolerance for the test and not respond as well. Is this true or old school thinking as well? I know you are on trt too Rocket, do you still use hcg at all?

I dont belive the receptor part but if you stay same dose you will max out gains and be stuck. If you break you will take steps backwards so when you get back on you feel like you made serious gains. I just say you got back what you had,lol

saying that I do think everyone should break that does this for fun. the serious BBer they have to do what they have to do but us rec guys I say break. My break is 150mgs trt though I wont come off again. you younger cats should come off IMO. or there are some that are younger and just have messed up systems I say go trt also there.

I am on TRT and I still use HCG as I get shut down. you really feel it even on test after awhile. HCG picks me right back up. I try not to let myself get to shut down but it happens,lol

[AllDay]

I dont belive the receptor part but if you stay same dose you will max out gains and be stuck. If you break you will take steps backwards so when you get back on you feel like you made serious gains. I just say you got back what you had,lol

saying that I do think everyone should break that does this for fun. the serious BBer they have to do what they have to do but us rec guys I say break. My break is 150mgs trt though I wont come off again. you younger cats should come off IMO. or there are some that are younger and just have messed up systems I say go trt also there.

I am on TRT and I still use HCG as I get shut down. you really feel it even on test after awhile. HCG picks me right back up. I try not to let myself get to shut down but it happens,lol

Well I def do this for fun, I feel like a million bucks when Im on compared to when Im off. So I guess a break is in the cards for me soon. If I implement the hcg now and prolong my cycle to 20 weeks then do pct, do you think this is too long of a run? I'm still making great gains and hate to come off in 4 weeks but if 20 wks is pushing it then I will no doubt.