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    So after going back and forth on different ideas, I think I am going to go with something basic. I am getting married in 3.5 months so I might as well try to get it going. I am going to run test E at 400mg EW for 12 weeks. I am not trying to "get big" but obviously I want to continue muscle growth. Along side the test, I was thinking of running t3 and clen. I have never used t3 but have used clen once before. After searching the forum and looking at other people's opinions,here is my outline for how to run the t3/clen. Please correct it if I am way off

    25mcg t3 each day
    clen 60mcg and ramp up every 3rd day 20mcg until I get to 120 (if I can handle it) for 2 weeks. Then take 2 weeks off

    Now my question to all that have used t3. I have heard 2 different things. Some say to stay on the t3 for up to 6 weeks then off, and others say to stay on the whole time. I was thinking staying on the whole time at 25mcg but I dont want to eff with the thyroid too much. Would it develop a dependency on such a low dose?

    My other question is,is 25mcg too low? I know it is powerful but most people use it with GH to help the benefits and I am not on GH. I am running test e (which,yes I know makes you bloat) but Im not going crazy on the dose just to help with any muscle reducing aspects of the t3.Also, I am a wuss and dont want EOD prop injects.

    Any thoughts and insights would be great

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    I would run it the whole time at 25mcg. I would also stay on the clen the whole time using benedryl to keep the receptors fresh and the drug working.

    as you know, diet and cardio is key, far more important then the drugs actually.

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    • #3
      25mcg is low, 50mcg would work a bit better.

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      • #4
        HEY i HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS FOR ANYONE WILLING TO GIVE A KNOWLEGABLE ANSWER PLEASE.i USED TO COMPETE BAC IN STATES LAST SHOWS WHERE NPC USA THREE YEARS RUNNING AND JR USA AND A OPEN CLASS OVERALL IN CALI WAY BACK WHEN,WELL THE ITCH HAS COME BACK STRONG NOW THAT IM HERE IN AUS AND BEEN TRAINING VERY HARD AS BEFORE MY RECEPTORS ARE BORN AGAIN VIRGIN ONCE AGAIN AND I DO SOME SHOW PREP FOR LOCAL ATHLETES HERE HAD A KID RUN OUT OF MONEY AND AT END PAID ME WITH SOMELIQUID CLEN AND T3.BACK WHEN I USED CLEN IT CAME IN LITTLE BROWN BOTTLE WHITE CAP PILL FORM AND NEVER USED T3 LIQUID.IM AT ABOUT 15% AND WANT TO TAKE IT DOWN TO ATLEAST 7 OR 8 IM DIALED ON DIET TRAINING AND C ARDIOS ON POINT BUT ITS SITTING HERE ON MY SHELF AN KEEP CALLING TO ME.DOSAGE SUGGESTIONS AND 2 WEEKS ON AND OFF IS WHAT RESEARCH HAS BEEN SAYING.ANY SUGGESTIONS FROM EXPERIENCE WOULD GREATLY BE APPRECIATED.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by EXUASbantam View Post
          HEY i HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS FOR ANYONE WILLING TO GIVE A KNOWLEGABLE ANSWER PLEASE.i USED TO COMPETE BAC IN STATES LAST SHOWS WHERE NPC USA THREE YEARS RUNNING AND JR USA AND A OPEN CLASS OVERALL IN CALI WAY BACK WHEN,WELL THE ITCH HAS COME BACK STRONG NOW THAT IM HERE IN AUS AND BEEN TRAINING VERY HARD AS BEFORE MY RECEPTORS ARE BORN AGAIN VIRGIN ONCE AGAIN AND I DO SOME SHOW PREP FOR LOCAL ATHLETES HERE HAD A KID RUN OUT OF MONEY AND AT END PAID ME WITH SOMELIQUID CLEN AND T3.BACK WHEN I USED CLEN IT CAME IN LITTLE BROWN BOTTLE WHITE CAP PILL FORM AND NEVER USED T3 LIQUID.IM AT ABOUT 15% AND WANT TO TAKE IT DOWN TO ATLEAST 7 OR 8 IM DIALED ON DIET TRAINING AND C ARDIOS ON POINT BUT ITS SITTING HERE ON MY SHELF AN KEEP CALLING TO ME.DOSAGE SUGGESTIONS AND 2 WEEKS ON AND OFF IS WHAT RESEARCH HAS BEEN SAYING.ANY SUGGESTIONS FROM EXPERIENCE WOULD GREATLY BE APPRECIATED.
          Are you taking any aas right now? Also what are the dosages of your clen and your t3? how many mcg/ml?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by EXUASbantam View Post
            HEY i HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS FOR ANYONE WILLING TO GIVE A KNOWLEGABLE ANSWER PLEASE.i USED TO COMPETE BAC IN STATES LAST SHOWS WHERE NPC USA THREE YEARS RUNNING AND JR USA AND A OPEN CLASS OVERALL IN CALI WAY BACK WHEN,WELL THE ITCH HAS COME BACK STRONG NOW THAT IM HERE IN AUS AND BEEN TRAINING VERY HARD AS BEFORE MY RECEPTORS ARE BORN AGAIN VIRGIN ONCE AGAIN AND I DO SOME SHOW PREP FOR LOCAL ATHLETES HERE HAD A KID RUN OUT OF MONEY AND AT END PAID ME WITH SOMELIQUID CLEN AND T3.BACK WHEN I USED CLEN IT CAME IN LITTLE BROWN BOTTLE WHITE CAP PILL FORM AND NEVER USED T3 LIQUID.IM AT ABOUT 15% AND WANT TO TAKE IT DOWN TO ATLEAST 7 OR 8 IM DIALED ON DIET TRAINING AND C ARDIOS ON POINT BUT ITS SITTING HERE ON MY SHELF AN KEEP CALLING TO ME.DOSAGE SUGGESTIONS AND 2 WEEKS ON AND OFF IS WHAT RESEARCH HAS BEEN SAYING.ANY SUGGESTIONS FROM EXPERIENCE WOULD GREATLY BE APPRECIATED.
            hard to read in all caps bro but i'll try.

            does the bottle have a brand on it? does it have anything on it that says it's dose? something like 200mcg/ml or something like that?

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            • #7
              tRANSFORMIX BOTH BOTTLES THE CLEN 200MCG X 60ML THE T3 100 MCG/ML 100 MCG OF T3 AND HAVENT TOOK ANYTHING SINCE USA BACK IN 96.CLEAN AS A WHISTLE SO IM THINKING LOW DOSAGES SHOULD WORK WONDERS IM 47 IM SHORT REALLY SHORT 5'0" AND IM HOLDING 172 AND AT LIKE 15%

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              • #8
                Your gonna need an oral syringe to properly dose. Don't try to eye ball it bro, and up killing yourself. Lol

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                • #9
                  YA THERES ACTUALLY A LOCAL FEED STORE HERE iM IN A PRETTY SMALL BEACHTOWN NOW BIG DIFFERENCE FROM LIVING IN HAWAII AND oc IN CALI BUT GONNA ROL THROUGH THERE AND SEE IF i CAN GET A FEW FEEL STUPID BUT HAVE TO CHECK MEASUREMENTS IM STILL IN US STYLES OF MEASURE AND NEED TO FIGURE OUT DOSAGE PLUS ON THE TAPER TOO.i THINK MORE SO I DONT WANT TO OVER LOAD OR WASTE A FREEBIE
                  sO bOUNCER WOULD YOU SAY DO FIRST CYCLE OF THEM AS IF iD NEVER USED ANYTHING AND DO THE PYRAMID STARTING AT? TO PEAK AT 120(IF ALLS GOING WELL) THEN TAPER BACK DOWN DROPPING OFF FOR 2 WEEKS AND RUNT3 ALL THE WAY THROUGH?
                  Last edited by EXUASbantam; 03-17-16, 09:13 AM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by EXUASbantam View Post
                    YA THERES ACTUALLY A LOCAL FEED STORE HERE iM IN A PRETTY SMALL BEACHTOWN NOW BIG DIFFERENCE FROM LIVING IN HAWAII AND oc IN CALI BUT GONNA ROL THROUGH THERE AND SEE IF i CAN GET A FEW FEEL STUPID BUT HAVE TO CHECK MEASUREMENTS IM STILL IN US STYLES OF MEASURE AND NEED TO FIGURE OUT DOSAGE PLUS ON THE TAPER TOO.i THINK MORE SO I DONT WANT TO OVER LOAD OR WASTE A FREEBIE
                    If you don't have any luck there you can always get them online.

                    https://www.rui-products.com/syringe...l-syringe.html

                    In terms of dose for the clen I'd go with 100mcg per day or half a ml if it's 200mcg/ml

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                    • #11
                      SHOULD i SPLIT THE DOSE ON CLEN 50 MORNING 50 NIGHT AND WHAT ABOUT THIS T3?DOSAGE SUGGESTIONS IF ANY FOR MY WEIGHT AND THANKS BOUNCER FOR SUGGESTIONS ANY BIT HELPS THIS OG LOL

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by EXUASbantam View Post
                        SHOULD i SPLIT THE DOSE ON CLEN 50 MORNING 50 NIGHT AND WHAT ABOUT THIS T3?DOSAGE SUGGESTIONS IF ANY FOR MY WEIGHT AND THANKS BOUNCER FOR SUGGESTIONS ANY BIT HELPS THIS OG LOL
                        yea split it up. 50mcg in morning and 50mcg in after noon. t3 you can split as well. 25mcg with clen in morning and 25mcg with clen in afternoon.

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                        • #13
                          LASTLY BOUNCER WHATS UP ON THE USING THE BENADRYL/ WHEN i DID PILL FORM i TOOK WITH ENTERIC ASPRIN TO HELP IT GET MORE OBSORPTION TO LOWER TRACK OF DIGESTION SO WOULD GET MORE OF WHATEVER I WAS USUING IS THIS SAME PRINCIPAL?

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                          • #14
                            yea, i think benadryl extends your ability to use clen for longer periods. doesn't make it work better or anything. just prevents your body from building a tolerance from what i understand.

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                            • #15
                              Look into ketotifen for this (prevention of tolerance to clen). Benadryl was promoted to have this effect for a short time a few years ago but it was found not to be effective. Ketotifen has always been known to be effective at this but availability used to be an issue. Because ketotifen and benadryl both belong to the same class of antihistamines someone did a write up trying to make the contention that it would work the same as ketotifen when it came to preventing a tolerance build up in the b2 receptor, but it turns out that assumption was incorrect. Ketotifen can be had at rc companies easily now aa days as well and is cheap (like $20). rui has it.

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