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  • Clomid & Nolva are BOTH required for a better chance at recovery

    Questionable source but still worth sharing...

    There are 2 major components involved in recovery. Testosterone production and Spermatogenesis.

    LH and FSH are both required for the equation. LH is produced by the pituitary and stimulates the Leydig cells to produce testosterone. Once testosterone is in production it works alongside FSH and stimulates sertoli cells to produce sperm. Sperm production is hindered if either of these are unhealthy. They both work in synergy. You need BOTH to be at healthy levels. Nolvadex is dominant in LH promotion and Clomid is dominant in promoting FSH.

    clomid has multiple effects. It's an anti-estrogen, so it obviously decreases the estrogenic effects in your body by stimulating the Hypothalamus back to life and sending gonadotropin releasing hormone (GnRH) to your pituitary, so that LH/FSH can be secreted.

    Nolva boosts the effects of clomid because it put clomid into "competition" mode where they both fight for a receptors to bind to. This competitiveness will only occur with the presence of BOTH nolva/clomid, and will inevitably resolve the issue of excess estrogen in the Hypothalamus. This will trigger both LH and FSH to crank UP, as the high estrogen in this cluster is suppressive. This entire scenario is not as effective with only one drug.

    Furthermore varying the compounds; Since we know both stimulate LH, what most don't know is that the act is different. clomid boosts the amplitude of LH serum, but has no effect on the frequency. Nolvadex is the complete opposite in that area, where it boosts the actual frequency of LH and has no effect on its amplitude.

    You're probably assuming they're identical and overpowering... clomid is a mixed agonist/antagonist for the estradiol receptor. Nolva is also mixed, however.... it is a pure antagonist in the E receptor in breast tissue. There is a reason that clomid is not recommended for gynecomastia reversal, but Nolva is.

    Can you recover with just Nolvadex, or just clomid? Well, anything is possible. But why would you take that risk if the combination gives you a much better chance? To save a few bucks and risk your health? clomid when coupled with Nolvadex is clearly the safer choice over using either compound individually.

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    FALSE
    Competition mode lol

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Mr incredible View Post
      FALSE
      Competition mode lol
      I'm a member on that site that jack got this from and I agree that you should use both.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by A$AP View Post
        I'm a member on that site that jack got this from and I agree that you should use both.
        You simply won't come accross anyone as experienced as me in this sphere

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Mr incredible View Post
          You simply won't come accross anyone as experienced as me in this sphere
          I'm not saying I know more than you by all means, but let's just agree to disagree lol

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          • #6
            the best recovery agent is Exemestane bro, no two ways about it

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            • #7
              Do you have any studies you can gimme the link to I'd loved to read up on it

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              • #8
                Bro, rather than me scour the internet for stuff I've read many times, your welcome to run free with google. The essential facts are as follows in relation to Exemestane at circa 25mg ed;

                1) 60& increase in testosterone
                2) 100% increase in free bound test
                3) reduced SHBG
                4) Its classed as a steroidal aromatise inhibitor and a suicidal aromatise inhibitor
                5) makes any anabolic steroids run concurent more effective
                6) there is no rebound upon cessation
                7) drops estro aromatise by 80-90%
                8) increases IGF

                Essentially it does a fucking great job and is a wonder drug both on cycle and for PCT

                Here's a couple reads to start you off but basically nothing compares to this matrix of benefits and only letro is a stronger AI and its too strong

                Aromatase inhibitors in men: effects and therapeutic options

                Exemestane (Aromasin) The king of anti-estrogens

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