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  • #16
    i remember an article coming out recently that revisited this concept, but im having trouble locating it.

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    • #17
      that would be awesome if you can find it. I seem to run into a lot of people that are not stupid but don't know about this. I remember when i first brought it up here people were like WTF. having new studys will help me as i talk like a retard and get shit mixed up half the time.

      I know a lot about Gh and I just said 3.3mgs is 1iu to someone,lol its backwards and i know that

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      • #18
        Most of the good shit is behind paywalls that I dont have access to anymore. Academia is funny like that, YOU WANT OUR STUDDIES< YOU HAVE TO PAY!

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Nekrawulf View Post
          Most of the good shit is behind paywalls that I dont have access to anymore. Academia is funny like that, YOU WANT OUR STUDDIES< YOU HAVE TO PAY!
          lol figures its always about the $$$$$

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          • #20
            Originally posted by blm View Post
            It's just a band aid. It doesn't repair anything. It only reduces inflammation/ symptoms.
            This was true for me. Just finished 12-week cycle, weeks 1-10 used Deca for joint support. Didn't think it was working until after weeks 12 when I was off for 2 weeks. Same training routine but I am hobbling around land feel my joints screaming at me.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by monster70k View Post

              This was true for me. Just finished 12-week cycle, weeks 1-10 used Deca for joint support. Didn't think it was working until after weeks 12 when I was off for 2 weeks. Same training routine but I am hobbling around land feel my joints screaming at me.
              Same here. Nothing short of a miracle for relief when I was on.

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              • #22
                I will start tomoz, foot operation and now tendon issues, giving gh a break for a while do deca makes sense.
                BTW from my experience GH does not help with tendonitis in fact it can make me more prone

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Mr incredible View Post
                  I will start tomoz, foot operation and now tendon issues, giving gh a break for a while do deca makes sense.
                  BTW from my experience GH does not help with tendonitis in fact it can make me more prone
                  GH will not fix tendonitis but 100% for a fact will make tendons stronger.

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                  • #24
                    I hope this clears up any confusion that seems to be taking place regarding the Deca/joint debate. Pain reduction is not correlative to joint repair, ask anyone who has gotten a cortizone shot if joints repaired themselves.

                    What I am getting at is that there are 2 different pathways at work here that are working on the joints. One, prostaglandins. Two, collagen synthesis.

                    I will explain the first point. The nandrolone molecule, specifically the deconate salt, has a putative functional relation on the eichasanoid processes related to prostaglandins. In this way, deca acts like and aspirin or advil and reduces inflammation and pain.

                    See the following link only if you are a nerd (you have been warned) : Deca and Prostaglandins

                    This action is operating independently of the collagen synthesis pathways. Collagen WILL repair damaged joints. But this repair is often mitigated by increased torque and shear load placed on joints during and after cycle. Primarily from the increased size and strength of the sympathetic muscle pathways connected to the joints.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Nekrawulf View Post
                      I hope this clears up any confusion that seems to be taking place regarding the Deca/joint debate. Pain reduction is not correlative to joint repair, ask anyone who has gotten a cortizone shot if joints repaired themselves.

                      What I am getting at is that there are 2 different pathways at work here that are working on the joints. One, prostaglandins. Two, collagen synthesis.

                      I will explain the first point. The nandrolone molecule, specifically the deconate salt, has a putative functional relation on the eichasanoid processes related to prostaglandins. In this way, deca acts like and aspirin or advil and reduces inflammation and pain.

                      See the following link only if you are a nerd (you have been warned) : Deca and Prostaglandins

                      This action is operating independently of the collagen synthesis pathways. Collagen WILL repair damaged joints. But this repair is often mitigated by increased torque and shear load placed on joints during and after cycle. Primarily from the increased size and strength of the sympathetic muscle pathways connected to the joints.
                      lol we just said the same thing but your words are so much better,lol even though i don't understand half of them

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                      • #26
                        Dont forget, inflamed tendons are more brittle and prone to injury and rupture

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                        • #27
                          Put 450mg in tonight then gonna run 300mg pw see how it goes

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by ROCKETW19 View Post
                            GH will not fix tendonitis but 100% for a fact will make tendons stronger.
                            Spot on!

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                            • #29
                              Welli can say that deca has done more than mask symptoms of inflammation it haz reduced the inflanation itself.

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                              • #30
                                Glad to hear an update. :)

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