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Methylstenbolone & Epistane stack Review
So I decided to bulk for winter and just wrapped up a 6 week designer oral cycle and thought I'd write a review on the compounds. I decided to run a cycle because fuck natty gains. Workout 6 days a week.
Starting stats:
Weight- 172
Arms- 14.5"
No other measurements were made
Bench 135 x 12
Squat 105 x 10
Deadlift 105 x 12
Post cycle
Weight - 182
Arms -14.9"
Bench - 170 x 10
Squat - 185 x 8
Deadlift - 305 x 1 :grin:
Drugs:
-20mg/ed msten
-Ramped up to 40mg/ed of epi starting from 10mg up 10mg per week and ramp back down to 20mg same way. Wasn't sure how the body would react with 2 methyls so I took it slow.
-500mg Ed NAC
-500mg Ed TUDCA both for liver support
-continued 5mg creatine and fish oil, multi vitamin
-20mg/Ed nolva on cycle 40/30/20/10 for PCT
Diet:
Typically 500cal over maintenance for first 3 weeks. Week 3 I got sick as fuck and it lasted 2 weeks. Pissed me off and I thought about ending the cycle but decided to attempt to salvage it. Appetite was shit during those two weeks so I had to eat a lot shittier just to get calories in. Workouts were short and there were many rest days. Weight stalled during the sickness because I was 180 at the start of being ill but if I wasn't on I'm sure I would have lost weight.
Sides: I'm very sensitive to gyno. Msten isn't known for conversion nor is epi however I began to have sensitivity very early on and jumped on the nolva I had on hand to be safe. Sleep was shitty. I got night sweats a lot and woke up having to urinate from all the water consumption and drink more water and eat. Both compounds are very dry and it was noticeable. Urine stayed very clean and clear with the TUDCA and NAC. For both methlys they are mild.
Verdict: Overall feeling was pretty good. I didn't feel like I could conquer the world but I didn't feel lethargic like M1T did back in the day. During workouts I had a lot more energy than natty and strength was a great improvement. Mood was great throughout. There was also a nice increase in vascualarity. Being off now for a few days I really miss the extra energy during workouts.
I would recommend either compound as a fast acting kickstart for a test cycle without the water retention of dbol or even a nice finisher to clean up the gains or even solo runs for guys that aren't into traditional banned substances. :)
I got a bunch of stuff super cheap during a sale so I'm planning a DMZ (dimethazine) solo run around spring which I may change up and throw in a non methyl to stack. I've also still got some old M1T in the freezer preban.
Pic: Bad lighting and not pumped but still a noticeable gain, especially the chest, from my pic in my macro advice thread in the nutrition section.
Starting stats:
Weight- 172
Arms- 14.5"
No other measurements were made
Bench 135 x 12
Squat 105 x 10
Deadlift 105 x 12
Post cycle
Weight - 182
Arms -14.9"
Bench - 170 x 10
Squat - 185 x 8
Deadlift - 305 x 1 :grin:
Drugs:
-20mg/ed msten
-Ramped up to 40mg/ed of epi starting from 10mg up 10mg per week and ramp back down to 20mg same way. Wasn't sure how the body would react with 2 methyls so I took it slow.
-500mg Ed NAC
-500mg Ed TUDCA both for liver support
-continued 5mg creatine and fish oil, multi vitamin
-20mg/Ed nolva on cycle 40/30/20/10 for PCT
Diet:
Typically 500cal over maintenance for first 3 weeks. Week 3 I got sick as fuck and it lasted 2 weeks. Pissed me off and I thought about ending the cycle but decided to attempt to salvage it. Appetite was shit during those two weeks so I had to eat a lot shittier just to get calories in. Workouts were short and there were many rest days. Weight stalled during the sickness because I was 180 at the start of being ill but if I wasn't on I'm sure I would have lost weight.
Sides: I'm very sensitive to gyno. Msten isn't known for conversion nor is epi however I began to have sensitivity very early on and jumped on the nolva I had on hand to be safe. Sleep was shitty. I got night sweats a lot and woke up having to urinate from all the water consumption and drink more water and eat. Both compounds are very dry and it was noticeable. Urine stayed very clean and clear with the TUDCA and NAC. For both methlys they are mild.
Verdict: Overall feeling was pretty good. I didn't feel like I could conquer the world but I didn't feel lethargic like M1T did back in the day. During workouts I had a lot more energy than natty and strength was a great improvement. Mood was great throughout. There was also a nice increase in vascualarity. Being off now for a few days I really miss the extra energy during workouts.
I would recommend either compound as a fast acting kickstart for a test cycle without the water retention of dbol or even a nice finisher to clean up the gains or even solo runs for guys that aren't into traditional banned substances. :)
I got a bunch of stuff super cheap during a sale so I'm planning a DMZ (dimethazine) solo run around spring which I may change up and throw in a non methyl to stack. I've also still got some old M1T in the freezer preban.
Pic: Bad lighting and not pumped but still a noticeable gain, especially the chest, from my pic in my macro advice thread in the nutrition section.
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