Spring/Summer Cycles

[rado]

Keeping it simple as I have for a year now. Test at 300mgs E5D and mast at 500mgs E5D as well.

[redback]

Going natty for a while

[Bouncer]

Going natty for a while

sorry to hear about this upcoming tragedy in your life. you will be the ultimate beta bitch. good luck.

[ROCKETW19]

Chuck your wife gonna let you ingest liver killing unless pills over injectable safe test?
Pills are good for 2 things kick start cycles or something like going on vacation they only work while your taking and after you go back exact same.

Test although synthetic it's naturally occurring in your body and the permanent gains are unbeatable along with a lot safer/healthy

[Bouncer]

Chuck your wife gonna let you ingest liver killing unless pills over injectable safe test?
Pills are good for 2 things kick start cycles or something like going on vacation they only work while your taking and after you go back exact same.

Test although synthetic it's naturally occurring in your body and the permanent gains are unbeatable along with a lot safer/healthy

Yes its an ignorance is bliss type thing. The stigma of injecting is seen as "bad and dirty" while pills are ok in the eyes of the ignorant.

Personally I wouldn't let anyone ignorant towards these matter tell me what I could or couldn't take.

[chuckz28]

Yes its an ignorance is bliss type thing. The stigma of injecting is seen as "bad and dirty" while pills are ok in the eyes of the ignorant.

Personally I wouldn't let anyone ignorant towards these matter tell me what I could or couldn't take.

Hit the nail on the head right there. She is scared for me and sees needles like recreational drugs. I'm going to try the approach of working on a build up toward test through starting with melanotan or something. I would never go behind her back though.

As far as my liver I'm not sweating it. A few low dose oral cycles with the best liver support isn't going to kill me when there is guys popping massive amounts of pills left and right for extended periods of time, pissing brown with little to no support.

If I never get the go ahead for test when these orals I have are gone then I'm done since they can't be found anymore anyway. Natty gains suck ass but I value my relationship and health more. Who knows, in 10 years I may be a candidate for trt.

[ROCKETW19]

Hit the nail on the head right there. She is scared for me and sees needles like recreational drugs. I'm going to try the approach of working on a build up toward test through starting with melanotan or something. I would never go behind her back though.

As far as my liver I'm not sweating it. A few low dose oral cycles with the best liver support isn't going to kill me when there is guys popping massive amounts of pills left and right for extended periods of time, pissing brown with little to no support.

If I never get the go ahead for test when these orals I have are gone then I'm done since they can't be found anymore anyway. Natty gains suck ass but I value my relationship and health more. Who knows, in 10 years I may be a candidate for trt.

Is your wife a sheep she just follows what she heard or is she smart?
If smart have her research TRT or HRT and see what she says.
If you have a good relationship she will do just that for you and make a educated decision but just don't let her look up them pills lol or you'll be natty for life lol

[chuckz28]

Is your wife a sheep she just follows what she heard or is she smart?
If smart have her research TRT or HRT and see what she says.
If you have a good relationship she will do just that for you and make a educated decision but just don't let her look up them pills lol or you'll be natty for life lol

Definetly a sheep but she is now working in a hospital in the endocrinology department in an administrative role and interested in nursing so it might end up being OK. Just needs some time.

[TrapsBrah]

Definetly a sheep but she is now working in a hospital in the endocrinology department in an administrative role and interested in nursing so it might end up being OK. Just needs some time.

I don't see why some people think oral only cycles are stupid or don't work. My first cycle ever (oral only epistane) in 4 weeks I went from benching 225 for 3 reps all the way to 12 reps easy. Also gained nearly 20 lbs. some water of course.

I took 4ad yesterday and you actually feel a mood lift idk if you get the same effects.

[chuckz28]

I don't see why some people think oral only cycles are stupid or don't work. My first cycle ever (oral only epistane) in 4 weeks I went from benching 225 for 3 reps all the way to 12 reps easy. Also gained nearly 20 lbs. some water of course.

I took 4ad yesterday and you actually feel a mood lift idk if you get the same effects.

For 4ad just being a pro hormone instead of an active designer it works decent enough for me. Keeps the libido up, lethargy low and mood normalized. I can run without it and it doesn't bother me much though. I sat on the couch with crashed test for at least 8 years sleeping all day, not wanting to fuck, so 4-6 weeks ain't shit.

[Bouncer]

I sat on the couch with crashed test for at least 8 years sleeping all day, not wanting to fuck, so 4-6 weeks ain't shit.

Fuck that. I'm sorry bro but why do that to yourself? Why let some Woman who hasn't a clue dictate what you can and can't take? Thought process is insane to me.

[chuckz28]

Fuck that. I'm sorry bro but why do that to yourself? Why let some Woman who hasn't a clue dictate what you can and can't take? Thought process is insane to me.

Respect for each others wishes and realizing my decisions affect more than just myself. She is fine with a doctors prescription but brining in controlled substances and needles in a house with kids is something she isn't comfortable with if it can be avoided. I wouldn't want her running drugs on her own either. It isn't worth losing trust in our relationship to me as I value that more than vanity.

[Bouncer]

While I respect that answer I also have to say... GHEY!

[Bouncer]

Going natty for a while

btw, what happened with the diet and all that. You looked like you were making some good progress by that one pic you posted but you didn't seem to enjoy it much.

[BamBam179]

200mg test p eod atm
Hgh 4iu ed (hopefully soon)
I also got some tren a and nandrolone p on the way. Not sure what I wanna do with it yet though lol