Need info about cycle

[jah420]

so im 23 and have been working out for about a year and i just want to
take it to the next level. I dont want to do anything crazy but i've heard stuff like dbol greatly increases protein synethesis and recovery.

what are your guys thoughts? right now im 170 6 foot 1.

[Bouncer]

everything you gain on dbol will be lost when you stop.

oral drugs are meant to kick off an injection based cycle so you get an immediate result, once the injectable kicks in you come off the dbol and the injectable picks up where the oral left of.

perfect first cycle.

test enath 300-400mgs every 5 days for 12 weeks.

[jah420]

everything you gain on dbol will be lost when you stop.

oral drugs are meant to kick off an injection based cycle so you get an immediate result, once the injectable kicks in you come off the dbol and the injectable picks up where the oral left of.

perfect first cycle.

test enath 300-400mgs every 5 days for 12 weeks.

so even if i am not nearly at my genetic potential i will lose 100% of gains afterward? even if i plan on dieting and working out as i am now, after the cycle?

i thought of it as just a boost for recovery and gains and thought unless you were already near your genetic potential then would keep most of your gains coming off a cycle if you continued training of course.

can you elaborate further? i dont want to be on cycle after cycle for eternity

edit: or are you saying only gains from dbol will be lost 100%?

[redback]

Everything bouncer said

Dbol is mostly water weight. Bloat etc. It's not going to be lean muscle gains. You will lose everything after you come off.

[redback]

Just use test

[Bouncer]

so even if i am not nearly at my genetic potential i will lose 100% of gains afterward? even if i plan on dieting and working out as i am now, after the cycle?

i thought of it as just a boost for recovery and gains and thought unless you were already near your genetic potential then would keep most of your gains coming off a cycle if you continued training of course.

can you elaborate further? i dont want to be on cycle after cycle for eternity

edit: or are you saying only gains from dbol will be lost 100%?

yea orals were never made to be used alone bro. dbol makes your body gain water so you appear "fuller" and more "pumped". problem is you cant stay on it because it is very harsh on the liver. so when you come off and you will need to come of.. all that water flushes out of the system.

be real brother, this is about you trying to avoid injections. there is no replacement. do it right or dont do it at all. oral only cycles will fuck you up.

[jah420]

Just use test

So using test will have the opposite effect, it actually increases lean muscle growth that can be sustained post cycle. If I did do the "perfect first cycle" that was mentioned. Do I need to do PCT and if so , how?


I've done a little research but I'm cluekess on how I've even get them and able to be sure they are legit ... I'm not putting random stuff in my bodylol

[Bouncer]

So using test will have the opposite effect, it actually increases lean muscle growth that can be sustained post cycle. If I did do the "perfect first cycle" that was mentioned. Do I need to do PCT and if so , how?


I've done a little research but I'm cluekess on how I've even get them and able to be sure they are legit ... I'm not putting random stuff in my bodylol

yes to your test question. injections mean lasting results.

PCT = tomax at 50mgs per day for 2 months 2 weeks after your last shot of test.

tomax can be bought here RUI-Products - Shop for your research and peptide needs!

[jah420]

yea orals were never made to be used alone bro. dbol makes your body gain water so you appear "fuller" and more "pumped". problem is you cant stay on it because it is very harsh on the liver. so when you come off and you will need to come of.. all that water flushes out of the system.

be real brother, this is about you trying to avoid injections. there is no replacement. do it right or dont do it at all. oral only cycles will fuck you up.

I'm not afraid of injections at all I am literally just trying to figure this out and want to avoid wasting time and messing up my body. I'm completely open to advice

[jah420]

yes to your test question. injections mean lasting results.

PCT = tomax at 50mgs per day for 2 months 2 weeks after your last shot of test.

tomax can be bought here RUI-Products - Shop for your research and peptide needs!

Any advice on how to get test tho ? Or am I on my own there?

[Bouncer]

stick around the forum bro. the regulars and trusted peeps here will help others out if someone can be trusted. nobody wants to take the risk of helping out a stranger that may or may not be someone up to no good.

[jah420]

stick around the forum bro. the regulars and trusted peeps here will help others out if someone can be trusted. nobody wants to take the risk of helping out a stranger that may or may not be someone up to no good.

So in shor, people arent going to trust me on a forum and I'm better off searching in person?

I enjoy reading about the knowledge shared but reading about people talking about cycles just makes we want to beg for the source hah. I guess I'll just have to be patient and find someone in person that I know is trustworthy

[jah420]

:snowman:

stick around the forum bro. the regulars and trusted peeps here will help others out if someone can be trusted. nobody wants to take the risk of helping out a stranger that may or may not be someone up to no good.

So as I know for safety reasons you can't just give me a website or phone mumble but can you tell me how you or others went about locating them? I don't want some joe blows mixture I want to research and co
Pare to make sure it's the real deal.

Thanks for any info I'm sure it's your most common question

[Chadd77]

There are so many UG labs it is so hard to know. If you get it from a trusted source then there are no worries. It takes time to find a source and no one here will just give that info out.

[jah420]

There are so many UG labs it is so hard to know. If you get it from a trusted source then there are no worries. It takes time to find a source and no one here will just give that info out.

Right I respect that no one just gives up there douce but what methods can be used to mind out what UG labs and Sources are legit. I don't want to use trial and error haha


Thaks