Bouncers MK-677 (Ibutamoren) Log

[Bouncer]

Im glad I saw this. Ive been kicking around giving the SARM thing a try. I was prescribed GH a few years back. It was Phizer brand. Insurance even covered it. Nothing I have ever tried was even in the same universe. Im so busted up now, (coming off shoulder surgery and chronic back problems)Im looking for any options to help. Im running BP-157 now. I think it helps. I just wish they didn't tighten down on the prescribing of GH. Thanks for putting the time in on the MK log. Im wondering about GW-501516 now. 75% of the stuff you read says the stuff is great, then you see a log saying it is bunk.

racer, I found tb-500 to be far more effective then BPC-157. im running bpc-157 now (been on over a month) and I've found it to be pretty worthless. TB-500 is superior IMO.

[speedracer59]

Im glad I saw this. Ive been kicking around giving the SARM thing a try. I was prescribed GH a few years back. It was Phizer brand. Insurance even covered it. Nothing I have ever tried was even in the same universe. Im so busted up now, (coming off shoulder surgery and chronic back problems)Im looking for any options to help. Im running BP-157 now. I think it helps. I just wish they didn't tighten down on the prescribing of GH. Thanks for putting the time in on the MK log. Im wondering about GW-501516 now. 75% of the stuff you read says the stuff is great, then you see a log saying it is bunk.

[Bouncer]

Another update. I've been eating every 4 hours for years. This usually translates to 5 meals a day. Problem is I can't make it 4 hours on this shit. I'm absolutely starving every 3 hours now. Does that mean my bodies food processing is now more effective? Is that going to translate to added muscle or fat? We shall see.

[Bouncer]

So I think I may have figured out why this time the mk-677 feels so much stronger than my last 2 runs with it.

This time I'm eating really strict compared to the last 2 runs. There is something about eating strict with this stuff specifically protein and carbs that just feels like all the nutrients you eat are being shuttled into your muscles. Again the comparison to slin comes to mind.

It kinda makes sense if you think about it. Mk-677 is tied to ghrelin which is the hunger hormone. That hormone is a strong amplifier of gh. It makes sense that this stuff would work better on a strict diet as opposed to eating junk all day with a belly full of food.

To put it simply, the cleaner your diet, the stronger the pump effect/side effects from mk-677. In my mind if the sides are stronger than it must be more effective at the desired effect of increasing gh pulses.

Now that I think about it, I always used to notice the effects of HGH much more in the summer when I was eating clean compared to winter when I wasn't. I don't mean fat burning effects either. I mean the nutrients shuttling, pump effect. It makes it more effective somehow. Bro science I know but it's based on lots of experience and listening to my body.

If you can deal with the hunger while sticking to your strict diet mk-677 will keep you full and pumped while the fat melts away. One of the worst things about dieting IMO is how the muscles go flat.

[Bouncer]

LOL, so today is my first off day of the mk-677. I cooked up the same exact meal I had yesterday and I'm fucken stuffed, yesterday I was still starving when I was finished.

[Bouncer]

At the end give your recommendation for dosing protocol pls

I'll give it now since it's not changing from here on out.

25mgs per day - This is the dose run in all the human studies so naturally that's the dose most people start with. I've seen logs were people try to double the dose and they don't report better results. There seems to be a saturation point where more is not better. Timing of dose does not matter as it has a 24 hour half life which gives roughly 12 pulses throughout the day. However I find the best time to take is in the morning on an empty stomach. If you take it before bed the dreams or more accurately nightmares are to intense.

5 days on 2 days off - This is not to save money or make it last. This is based on my experience with running my previous 2 mk-677 logs and reading the reports of other logs. There is a definite drop off in feeling and results after about a week. A few human studies show that GH and IGF levels were higher on day 5 than they were on day 7. You can actually feel the drop off believe it or not. The hunger goes away etc.. BUT if you take those 2 days off every 5 days you can theoretically prevent resistance. I've read a few logs where people report the hunger and pump is much stronger after you take those 2 days off. There seems to be a saturation point that slowly builds up over 5 days and by day 6 your body is saying "enough, need a bit of a break". This was my mistake the first 2 logs I ran. I don't like coming of things so I stayed on 7 days a week. If you read my previous logs I talk about results early on and then nothing. I'm hoping to change that this time.

[Mr I]

At the end give your recommendation for dosing protocol pls

[Bouncer]

Let me also be clear, this feels notching like running hgh, it feels more like running slin to be honest. The pump, blood sugar crash, massively increased appetite and rapid weight gain has me thinking that while this stuff may boost gh there is something else going on to be giving me such rapid results. I've used real pharma gh and the effect is slow and steady, nothing like this.

That said, IF you can control your diet, I have a feeling this shit will cut you up while keeping your muscles very full. I'm sweating like a bitch everytime one of these pulses hit every 3 hours or so.

[Bouncer]

Experiencing a strong pulse right now. Feels like a combo of low blood sugar and being absolutely starving. I really don't recommend this to anyone who doesn't have strong willpower to eat clean. This shit will make you eat like no other.

I cannot figure why this batch is so much stronger for me. I was pretty unimpressed with the last 2 logs I ran with mk-677. I was thinking maybe my first 2 batches were fake but that wouldn't make sense considering I've gotten all my mk-677 from the same place. This shit is intense this time around. Could it be really overdosed I wonder?

Oh and I'm 2lbs heaver. That makes 5 total lbs gained since Monday when I started mk-677. Keep in mind I'm dieting strict for summer now.

That bpc-157 isn't doing a fucken thing for pain but I'm seriously thinking i stumbled onto something here by combing the 2 making the mk-677 far stronger. Kind of excited how well this shit is working.

[Bouncer]

There's some new info saying that mk-677 may actually amplify the bodies natural pulses over a 24 hour period rather than keeping it elevated for the entire 24 hours between dosing. This is a good thing if true because it would indicate that it doesn't cause GH bleed.

It would also back up what I've been feeling. Multiple times per day I'm feeling hand swelling increase and decrease, tiredness come and go, pumps come and go. As if you can feel the gh pulses. Super bro science I know but something is up for sure.

[Bouncer]

Update

5th day on, I don't take it Tomorrow or Sun to follow the 5 days on 2 days off protocol. i don't really like to come off things but the 2 days off is supposed to be important with mk-677 or else your body will form resistance which is probably what happens with my last 2 runs with mk-677.

hands are still swollen. last 2 days iv'e had an increased appetite. i'm usually hungry for all my meals but the last 2 days I've been starving for all my meals. good stuff.

[Bouncer]

Hands are swollen and feeling tight. Something is surely different this time around.

[BamBam179]

Update

I read an article/study the other day that showed that part of the way bpc-157 works and helps heal is by increasing the bodies sensitivity to GH. iv'e been running the bpc-157 for a month. have i possibly discovered something here? running bpc-157 + mk-677 = extreme nitrogen retention? maybe I've made my body extremely sensitive to GH

Dam this makes me wanna add it into my GH cycle lol. Keep posted to see if it continues

[Bouncer]

Lol that's hardcore. Generic gh, ghrp, cjc1295, and mk-677. You think your the gh infinity level fella or some shit. :D

I've experienced cramps at dinner out of nowhere as well. Went to get up from the table and felt like I got hit with a bat in both hamstrings. Had to stand there for 15 minutes with everyone staring at me because every time I took a step they would lock back up.

I wonder if mk-677 pulls so much water into the muscle that it fucks up the electrolyte balance or salt levels or some shit?

I trained upper body today and my calves were even pumped. Lol

[MattG]

I have something interesting to report on mk677 as well, pertaining to the dehydration issue...been running 4 ius generic growth in the am with cjc1295 plus ghrp2 at bedtime for a month and a half. Def sleeping like a motherfucker with vivid dreams every night...decided to add mk677 to this yesterday. Well, tonight I was just out for a couple of drinks with my dad, and all of a sudden I got the absolute worst stomach cramps I've ever had in my life, followed by the absolute worst hamstring cramps I've ever had. Was just sithing there completely normal, then these cramps totally took over my body. Had to stand up to help, but still continued. So bad I left early as I could not control them...after 5 min I was finally able to sit down and drive home. I know it was from introducing mk677 bc I had similar bouts with this last time, but that happened during strenuous exercise at the gym. All I know is that it was so extreme you'd have to experience it yourself to understand how horrible it was...so from how thirsty it makes you, to the extreme dehydration type cramps it gives me...must be some kind of coincidence.