tren a vs. tren e

[frankenstein]

I haven't fooled with tren very much and was looking for a cycle that was muscle with no swell... Any suggestions on the difference or other drugs?:retard:

[Bouncer]

tren ace will be less bloat with more injections. if sides come ace is the safer bet.

could also run test with masteron

[BamBam179]

Agreed. Tren a is a safer bet If you don't know how your body reacts to it. I was on tren e for a while at about 600 a week, started having chest pains like a bitch. Took over a week without pinning tren for it to go away

[rado]

Tren ace or enanthate is fine, just keep diet in check and you won't put on fat or water. I've done both with great results. Ace is definitely better in terms of water retention or fat accumulation. But you can achieve very similar from both with good diet and training.

I like ace

[rado]

could also run test with masteron

:thumb::clapback:good cycle.

[jack tors]

I bloat much more on the short esters like test p, tren ace...

[jack tors]

test with masteron

I like this better. Its what im doing now.

[Bouncer]

yea test and mast really is a great cycle. i like the idea of 2 drugs that when taken together are better than either one alone. if i remember right, mast allows for more of the test to be used for muscle building purposes rather than being locked up by the body in some process that I forget. I'll probably add mast in to my cycle to harden up for spring/summer.

[frankenstein]

I haven't used masteron much either what about 500mgs test enanthate once weekly and 300mgs masteron in 3 split doses on training days weekly for 8 weeks?

[Bouncer]

Why training days? Masteron doesnt act quickly enough to have any effect on training. It's not like dbol bro. Just split the test and mast up into 2 shots and shoot every 4-5 days. Enth once every 7 days will result in a dip. 5 days has been shown to be superior in terms of keeping blood levels stable.

[frankenstein]

Sounds great.. Anything else like t3 and clen? And is 8 weeks a good length?

[Bouncer]

I'd run it 12 weeks minimum preferably 16 weeks. At 8 weeks you'll be stopping when the gear is in full swing. No t3 or clen. Just clean diet and 20-30min cardio after weight training.

[frankenstein]

And this is lean mass? What about dropping the test and adding Winny 50mgs daily at week 8-12? Other blogs seem to like the clen and t3. I don't have the funds for a real anavar run.

[Bouncer]

If you eat clean yes. All about diet. You can get lean on anadrol if your strict enough..