Should I or should I not run clen??

[A$AP]

Really contemplating running some clen. I'm currently 190 about 18-20% bf I plan on running the typical two weeks on two weeks off. I might up my trt dose from 145 mg to 250mg. Any thoughts and opinions would be appreciated.

[rado]

Clen is horrible(heart issues) and you should try a better diet. Not being an ass but even if you were to take clen, your diet and training needs to be right, not half assed. Clen works great believe me it does. But this is also when someone does their due diligence on diet and training. And I'm sure you're not competing, so why not have a better eating regimen?

You're prbably going to run it anyway, but just some advice. Wish more would concentrate on proper eating to maintain a good body structure.


Post your diet and training.

[Bouncer]

clen is a muscle eater first and foremost. keep that in mind when you use it. haha

[wheyman]

I personally don't care for clen. Too many problems with it in my experience. I had headaches and trouble sleeping with it.

At 190 and your body fat being that high, I would have to assume your diet isn't that great. If your diet is shit, and your run something like clen, then you'll still have issues when you get off the clen with a shitty diet.

[A$AP]

Im trying to figure out how to post a picture, but I'm not having any luck I might be under 18% bf. No my diet is not perfect but I will get it dialed in. Since you guys think clen isn't a good idea. What about test cyp 400mg a week and 60mg of anavar ed?

[rado]

Im trying to figure out how to post a picture, but I'm not having any luck I might be under 18% bf. No my diet is not perfect but I will get it dialed in. Since you guys think clen isn't a good idea. What about test cyp 400mg a week and 60mg of anavar ed?

Why don't you try dieting right first? What exactly does "dialed in" mean? Again, not trying to be an ass but until you clearly know your diet, those drugs are just gonna get you fat, bloated, etc...taking AS and not doing it right is just gonna put bloat and minor muscle on you...which you'll lose most of it when you come off.

Btw test and var are great together. When I see members type this kind of stuff and I see your stats, to me that tells me you're lazy.

Most will take an easy way out rather than putting some effort into eating better. ...it all starts there; eat right then follow.

Proper eating trumps everything
...so..

[Bouncer]

Test and anavar is a good cycle but as has been repeated. Diet is what will transform your body. People hate to hear such a boring answer but it's what works.

[A$AP]

I'm taking anyone's post offensive lol bring in the constructive criticism. But can someone please explain to me how to post a picture that way you guys can tell me about what percent body fat is and what I could do to help better my physique

[Bouncer]

Take pic with phone. Go to imgur.com upload pic and post link here.

[A$AP]

Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet

Open to any and all suggestions also what's my bf

[dna9488]

Diet hard as fuck. Get your lifting in check and do cardio. Your diet must be on point. Lean out fully and then start to build and put on size

[Bouncer]

Bro you gotta take your training and diet seriously before worrying about chemicals.

I'd say your initial estimate was about right.

You could do so much with just a good diet and training regimen. It's a shame your first thought is chemicals.

[Bouncer]

Diet hard as fuck. Get your lifting in check and do cardio. Your diet must be on point. Lean out fully and then start to build and put on size

In his case I disagree.

If it were me I'd increase clean cals and train hard and heavy. Put on a little muscle and his metabolism will take care of things.

[A$AP]

I get it bad choice to hop on gear. I'm going to take the advice, I'll eat chicken good carbs and vegetables. Anything else I could possibly do? I'm thinking about 20 minutes of cardio with each workout

[rado]

I'm taking anyone's post offensive lol bring in the constructive criticism. But can someone please explain to me how to post a picture that way you guys can tell me about what percent body fat is and what I could do to help better my physique

Thank you for posting the pic, brave of you. But as I mentioned above, get eating habits to be better. Post a log with pics; this can and will help you tremendously and helps us see your foods and critique.

Diet hard as fuck. Get your lifting in check and do cardio. Your diet must be on point. Lean out fully and then start to build and put on size

Be quiet dna....get your body in tip top shape for once... stop talking like you have a clue....you don't. ..just being honest...

I get it bad choice to hop on gear. I'm going to take the advice, I'll eat chicken good carbs and vegetables. Anything else I could possibly do? I'm thinking about 20 minutes of cardio with each workout

Post a log for yourself, and be honest. ...Bouncer and myself have some food threads on here, check them out...some of us here eat pretty well and a few eat pretty clean. I'd say just wait till summer, lose a bit of fat, eat better and then start a test cycle and keep it low.