Should I or should I not run clen??

[Bouncer]

I'd emphasise training as well. How long have you been lifting bro?

[A$AP]

On and off since I was 20 I'm 25 now. I plan on getting serious with it but I won't use any chemicals for a long time. Your opinions on training bouncer should I go as heavy as I can for 8-12 reps?

[Bouncer]

Heavy as you can but without cheating and swinging.

Eat a lot but eat a lot of clean cals. Chicken, eggs, tuna, beef, oats, rice. Cardio 20 minutes post workout brisk walk on slight incline.

[A$AP]

Will do bud! This is your training and diet in a nutshell?

[Bouncer]

All about consistency though brother. Anyone can do it here or there. Anyone can eat a certain way 25% of the time. What makes the big difference is day in and day out. 5-6 meals a day, doing what it takes.

[A$AP]

Thank you for posting the pic, brave of you. But as I mentioned above, get eating habits to be better. Post a log with pics; this can and will help you tremendously and helps us see your foods and critique.

Be quiet dna....get your body in tip top shape for once... stop talking like you have a clue....you don't. ..just being honest...


Post a log for yourself, and be honest. ...Bouncer and myself have some food threads on here, check them out...some of us here eat pretty well and a few eat pretty clean. I'd say just wait till summer, lose a bit of fat, eat better and then start a test cycle and keep it low.

Thanks for all of advice bro I will take diet a lot more serious training as well.

[A$AP]

All about consistency though brother. Anyone can do it here or there. Anyone can eat a certain way 25% of the time. What makes the big difference is day in and day out. 5-6 meals a day, doing what it takes.

Alright man. I'll keep everyone updated

[A$AP]

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A updated pic for everyone, not yet a month but I've been eating better and training harder. Haven't touched anything except for the test I'm prescribed for trt

[Bouncer]

look better already. keep at it. even when its gets boring keep at it.

[A$AP]

look better already. keep at it. even when its gets boring keep at it.

Thanks bro! My goal is to be about 220 12% bf. That'll take awhile but it will be well worth it

[MedLabGear]

CLEN is actually banned in China, so unless you have a reputable source you're probably getting a cocktail concoction that will put you on the verge of a heart attack in most cases. Im inclined to agree with everyone else who is telling you to steer clear.

This is a little bit of an old school, mild approach - but I like half a bronkaid, 100mg caffeine and 81mg baby aspirin pre workout. No stimulants.

[A$AP]

CLEN is actually banned in China, so unless you have a reputable source you're probably getting a cocktail concoction that will put you on the verge of a heart attack in most cases. Im inclined to agree with everyone else who is telling you to steer clear.

This is a little bit of an old school, mild approach - but I like half a bronkaid, 100mg caffeine and 81mg baby aspirin pre workout. No stimulants.

Thanks i think I'm just going to avoid now lol

[FrankTheTank55]

When you decide you're ready I'd choose winstrol over clen. I can not stand clen! The muscle cramps are horrible! Recently I was taking helios which is injectable clen, I got a huge cramp in my hamstring and it made my whole body tighten up! That caused a cramp in my abs to go along with the one in my hamstring. I really felt like crying....lol

Just stay away from clen.... :)

[Bouncer]

Ab and hamstring cramp at same time!? Holy nightmare hell. Ab cramps seriously scare me. Feels like your gonna die.

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[A$AP]

When you decide you're ready I'd choose winstrol over clen. I can not stand clen! The muscle cramps are horrible! Recently I was taking helios which is injectable clen, I got a huge cramp in my hamstring and it made my whole body tighten up! That caused a cramp in my abs to go along with the one in my hamstring. I really felt like crying....lol

Just stay away from clen.... :)

Got it winny instead of clen. Thanks bro