Critique my Large cycle

[epix00]

Besides Tren, masteron does sound pretty good. Eq could work as well if you are going to run it long enough. I know you run lower dosages though, so I would probably lean towards the masteron. EQ requires a little larger dose to get solid results off it. I like eq though because it gives me absolutely zero sides.

so yeah. Masteron would work and it would help keep a little bit of a dryer look to counteract the wet deca.

Primo also could work...but chances are it will probably just be test prop, so I would avoid it.

[Bouncer]

i go by the seasons. i bulk during the holidays and i cut when summer is on the way. so cutting with a BUT. since I stay is decent shape my cutting is not something drastic where I diet hard. i still eat a shit load of protein and carbs with cals close to 3000. i want to be as big and full as possible like I am in winter but as lean as I've been in the past. i can cut on any drug do to my metabolisem. i dont need specific "cutting drugs". it's the look im most interested in. pumped muscles, shredded abs. whats the best drug to add if im not gonna stop taking test and deca?

[epix00]

good points from both of you.

i've never had any deca dick issues simply because I make sure my test dose is at the very least twice the amount of deca. but yea adding tren to that may change something. but yea my attitude really does get bad on tren. dark cloud type shit that just brings the very worst of my personality out.

if i were to add something to test and deca cycle what would be the perfect drug that compliments them both? masteron?

Whats the goal? Are you bulking,cutting, or recomping?

[Bouncer]

good points from both of you.

i've never had any deca dick issues simply because I make sure my test dose is at the very least twice the amount of deca. but yea adding tren to that may change something. but yea my attitude really does get bad on tren. dark cloud type shit that just brings the very worst of my personality out.

if i were to add something to test and deca cycle what would be the perfect drug that compliments them both? masteron?

[epix00]

Deca and tren are a recipe for disaster my man. We all know the deca/tren dick issue. I know you'd have test, but I'd drop the deca for tren, that's just me though. I've never done deca nor will I ever.

I think tren for you is a no no sir. I've seen you on it, your posts, your shit attitude, etc....you become miss Nancy but on another level lol

the tren/deca dick issue is non existent with something like caber. I cant speak for the attitude issues with bouncer on it...and that can be a deciding factor as well.

I actually plan on running tren and deca myself my next bulk cycle. I usually dont throw in deca but I have been having joint issues lately as well and want some relief.

[rado]

I have seen people run tren and deca together. some people advise against it purely from a theoretical standpoint and them both being 19-nors. However, what I have seen as real world results I cant refute. I have seen it work very well together. Since you are sensitive to tren, I would assume you are going to run it at a low dosage to start at least. If you do that and run the deca at a low dosage (enough to gain the benefits on your joints) I think it could work well together. I would also consider having caber or prami on hand as well to help battle any progesterone related side effects in addition to the adex. I know you ran tren enanthate in the past, so definitely go with the ace as it will be easier to manage if you have sides. I say give it a shot.

I'm sure many can run successfully tren and deca...just not sure Bouncer can or should.

[rado]

Deca and tren are a recipe for disaster my man. We all know the deca/tren dick issue. I know you'd have test, but I'd drop the deca for tren, that's just me though. I've never done deca nor will I ever.

I think tren for you is a no no sir. I've seen you on it, your posts, your shit attitude, etc....you become miss Nancy but on another level lol

[epix00]

I haven't run tren in awhile because of the nasty sides I got from it. That was back before I ran adex though. I used to only run Nolv which works fine as we know with test. But the second I'd try deca or tren I'd have tits in 2 weeks guaranteed.

ever since switching over to adex though I can run deca and test with no issue. i want to try tren again but here's my issues. I don't want to come off deca because of its effect on joints and collagen. I can train a lot heavier just because my joints dont hurt anymore like they did before deca.

so here is my dilemma. do i try test/deca/tren? i've never seen anyone run deca and tren together as it seemingly doesn't make a lot of sense considering how different the drugs are. thoughts?

I have seen people run tren and deca together. some people advise against it purely from a theoretical standpoint and them both being 19-nors. However, what I have seen as real world results I cant refute. I have seen it work very well together. Since you are sensitive to tren, I would assume you are going to run it at a low dosage to start at least. If you do that and run the deca at a low dosage (enough to gain the benefits on your joints) I think it could work well together. I would also consider having caber or prami on hand as well to help battle any progesterone related side effects in addition to the adex. I know you ran tren enanthate in the past, so definitely go with the ace as it will be easier to manage if you have sides. I say give it a shot.

[Bouncer]

I haven't run tren in awhile because of the nasty sides I got from it. That was back before I ran adex though. I used to only run Nolv which works fine as we know with test. But the second I'd try deca or tren I'd have tits in 2 weeks guaranteed.

ever since switching over to adex though I can run deca and test with no issue. i want to try tren again but here's my issues. I don't want to come off deca because of its effect on joints and collagen. I can train a lot heavier just because my joints dont hurt anymore like they did before deca.

so here is my dilemma. do i try test/deca/tren? i've never seen anyone run deca and tren together as it seemingly doesn't make a lot of sense considering how different the drugs are. thoughts?

[rado]

I've said the same since being on the boards..what's the point of looking great when your insides are about to wreck. Never liked EQ, didn't do much for me at all

[epix00]

I run pretty much the same compounds as you except I replace the mast with eq. These compounds just work.

Blood work is something that people just dont take seriously. I am a huge proponent of getting it done regularly. There is no other way to see what changes are occurring in our bodies. I have made adjustments to dosages more than once based on results I have gotten. That idea is so foreign to some people. What's the point of looking good on the outside if we have ridiculous lipid and liver enzyme issues due to our usage. An early death is not an honorable one when it can so easily be prevented.

I know Im preaching to the choir, but I figure if anyone reads this and it encourages them to do the same and get their blood work done, then we helped the community.

[rado]

Agreed bro.

For many years I've tried different compounds and finally I've got shit down.

What's been good for me, is slow steady gains. Makes it more manageable to see how my body reacts to adding weight, not to mention it gives me time to adjust things as well.

Coming off is the same, I taper off; something that's been abandoned for whatever reason. The AS of choice and always will be are as follows.

Tren ace
Mast ace
Winny
Prop ace
Test enanthate or cyp....

Not sure I need anything else for what I like to accomplish. I also keep my blood work in check, crazy to think I've done it since the beginning; blood work.

[epix00]

Thats a nice little stash you got going on. When I see those kits I just think of all the potential lbm that can be built on it. the tri blend sounds pretty nice too, any PIP? I only have about 50 ml of test e, 30 ml of test p, 30 ml of tren, 30 ml of eq, and 100 50 mg winny tabs on me right now. I had about double this but I Have been running quite a bit lately. I have enough to carry me through this cycle and a little cruise, but Its time to re-up on my next bulk cycle and some extra cruise test.

We are ahead of the game by doing what works for us. So many people jump from thing to thing or plan to plan and never can figure out what works for them because they go half in on alot of things instead of going all in on one thing and seeing the results through. As long as we adapt when neccesary we are ahead of the curve my brother.

[rado]

And yes that's my crusher:D so what lol

[rado]

They are worth their weight in gold now. When do you plan on cooking and running it?

I've got about 8 carts left of fina, 2 full bottles of script test along with 10 bottles of the 1ml, so 30ccs of test and 80mgs of tren ace...I've got 6 bags of winny that's 4 months and the ones with a cap are my tri blend of tren ace, mast ace and prop ace each 100mgs a cc for 300mgs of a shot...and I've got enough for 4 months of that :D


Oh and btw, I've had this shit since 1.5yrs ago:)..just now I'm depleting it, almost on purpose or I'd wait even longer.

The thing that works for me is long ass cycles with long breaks and just being patient and taking my time; works wonders for me and like you, I don't fix what's broken sir:agreed: