Tom Platz Discussing Steroid Use With Top Bodybuilders

[chuckz28]

No doubt. Out of all the 6 guys his info was the most useless.

[Bouncer]

Lol, the more he asks Ronnie the more he comes out with. "Oh I forgot about that" haha. Spends $15k on gear for a contest. Seems like those guys measured stuff by the cc, or quantity of pills taken more so than mg amount.

yea honestly ronnie isn't the best guy to talk to. he just isn't very bright and I honestly don't believe he understands the drugs on anything other than a primitive level. "i take drug i get big". seems like the kind of guy that minmizes drug use and promotes "faith and the power of god to help you achieve your goals".

[chuckz28]

Lol, the more he asks Ronnie the more he comes out with. "Oh I forgot about that" haha. Spends $15k on gear for a contest. Seems like those guys measured stuff by the cc, or quantity of pills taken more so than mg amount.

[chuckz28]

Second guy is Aaron Baker according to comments. Others seem to be more conformable than Ronnie. Also some talk about issues having access to certain gear limiting what they can run. I imagine the 90's were a bit different for gear access. Not a lot if any ugl, no internet etc. One guy talked about reusing needles.

[Bouncer]

I'll give it a shot later today. Hopefully it's no filled with too much bs. I'll give my verdict later.

[chuckz28]

He later says 10 weeks before each contest. They all talk about how insulin has nearly killed them and how diuretics have caused severe problems with cramping and drying out.

[Bouncer]

Yeah as soon as the first guy in the first video said he is only on gear for 10 weeks of the year I stopped watching.

that's disappointing.

[Bouncer]

Lol @ how obvious it's Colman. As if the blur face hides anything.

[FrankTheTank55]

I was skeptical for the first 10 min or so but they go into some details pretty well once they get comfortable talking and being reassured about their anonymity. They were for sure using a lot less back then and some of them were afraid to use insulin. They used a lot of orals though.

Yeah as soon as the first guy in the first video said he is only on gear for 10 weeks of the year I stopped watching.

[rado]

if your talking about Arnolds day yea they used less.

This era...didn't know I had to be more descriptive :retard:

[Bouncer]

back then what? Ronnie is in the fucken video rado.

tom platz wasn't using any hrt doses I promise you that.

if your talking about Arnolds day yea they used less.

[chuckz28]

I was skeptical for the first 10 min or so but they go into some details pretty well once they get comfortable talking and being reassured about their anonymity. They were for sure using a lot less back then and some of them were afraid to use insulin. They used a lot of orals though.

[rado]

i think that depends on what your definition of great size and nice physique is. you cannot become a pro BB with low dosages.

In today's realm of it? Of course not, but most of them look like shit

Back then? I'm pretty sure they didn't use it or abuse it like today.

[Bouncer]

IMO you can achieve great size and a nice physique with low doses or minimal drugs. You need to have total dedication, focus and desire to get shit done, can't half ass shit.

You can always tell who wants it THAT bad, you work your aas off for it.

I will say that once you've crossed that benchmark of high doses or multiple compounds, well you certainly can't turn back and expect good results.

i think that depends on what your definition of great size and nice physique is. you cannot become a pro BB with low dosages.

[rado]

IMO you can achieve great size and a nice physique with low doses or minimal drugs. You need to have total dedication, focus and desire to get shit done, can't half ass shit.

You can always tell who wants it THAT bad, you work your aas off for it.

I will say that once you've crossed that benchmark of high doses or multiple compounds, well you certainly can't turn back and expect good results.