My Biggest Cycle Ever. (Test, Deca, Dbol, Anadrol)

[Androman]

To each their own brother but I don't mean killing my estro. I don't respond well to arimidex, even at .25mg eod I get stiff joints and insomnia from it. Aromasin at half a tab eod gets unwanted bloat off me. Sure a little estrogen is good, helps with growth and gives your muscle that nice full look but too much masks your gains and you have the face of a fat boy or at least I do. Also it doesn't wreck havoc like adex does on cholesterol and also been proven to lower shbg and increase igf1.


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[Bouncer]

androman you got any articles on aromasin lowering shbg and raising igf? id like to read more on it. got me interested.

[Androman]

My Biggest Cycle Ever. (Test, Deca, Dbol, Anadrol)

Im trying to copy and paste it but it doesn't come out right.
Check it out here

For SHBG

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/an...-aromasin.html

I'll try to find the igf 1 level increase

[Androman]

Another thing there is no rebound effect from aromasin that you get from adex.


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[Androman]

http://press.endocrine.org/doi/full/...jc.2003-031279

Scroll down to Study 1: Dose finding and read the paragraph.


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[Androman]

Was wrong about increasing IGF1 levels. However IGF1 levels are unaffected when running aromasin where as on arimidex they are decreased by only a small percentage not sure exactly how much.


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[epix00]

There are definitely merits to aromasin Andro. I respond well to adex and aromasin gives me the sides you get from adex. I guess each individual is different.

[Bouncer]

interesting. if i switch from adex to aromasin is there any potential estro issue with is raising during transition process?

does aromasin completly kill estro?

[epix00]

No issues with it being raised as long as you start running the aromasin right away. Yes too much can completely kill estro

[Androman]

interesting. if i switch from adex to aromasin is there any potential estro issue with is raising during transition process?

does aromasin completly kill estro?

I don't see why it would and no, just like with everything else you'll need to find your sweet spot. Personally I would start at 12.5mg MWF, for 500mg test.


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[Androman]

I really like your cycle I ran the same oral mix for my last blast. Test @ 1050, tren E @ 500, deca @ 150, Drol/Dbol both 50/50mg ED. I peaked at 230lbs I was 218lb pre-blast, and my bench went over a nice 110lbs.


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[Bouncer]

what was epix talking about suicidal?

if i need .5mgs ed adex to control sides what dose is that comparable to with aromasin?

[epix00]

" Aromasin is a suicidal aromatase inhibitor (AI), meaning it permanently disables the aromatase enzyme once it binds to it. In plain English, Aromasin will prevent the currently bound enzymes from rebounding, which is what separates this drug from letrozole or arimidex. When you use other AI’s, they temporarily stop estrogen from aromatizing, but when you stop taking them those same enzymes can rebound causing what is known as ‘estrogen rebound’. This explains why some anabolic steroid users experience gynecomastia (bitch tits) after cycle when using other AI’s. Studies on breast cancer patients have shown aromasin reduced estrogen levels up to 85%. "

[Bouncer]

So once you use aromasin you will permanently disable aromatise? I don't get it. Why do you have to keep using it then? I'm having trouble with the terminology. "Permanently disables" means to me aromatizion will never occur again.

[Androman]

what was epix talking about suicidal?

if i need .5mgs ed adex to control sides what dose is that comparable to with aromasin?

Arimidex is an aromatase inhibitor, it blocks the aromatase enzyme which is responsible for test being converted into estrogen. Aromasin is a suicidal AI because there is no rebound effect, what it does is irreversible. This doesn't mean its going to kill your estrogen it'll just lower it.

Bro at .5mg eod Is a lot to me. If you want to swap to aromasin do 12.5mg MWF. I think that's plenty. If you're real sensitive to estrogen then do 12.5mg EOD. Also you're taking Dbol/Anadrol. Anadrol works very funky with estrogen meaning an AI isn't going to help with the type of gyno anadrol can cause. You'll need a serm like Nolvadex works for this. Also do you at least have caber on hand just in case since you're running the long acting nandrolone? That'd be very important. Even if it's a low dose.


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