Aromasin?

[chuckz28]

Man I was close to 1 mg a day adex and still having to take .25 letro once a week to keep my tits from growing. Too much, makes for bad lipids. Crashing my e2 is difficult.

[Bouncer]

This thread has me wanting to give aromasin a try on my next cycle.

opposite here. seems harder to dial in compared to adex. if you fuck up dosing and you crash estro levels yous are completely fucked for 2-3 weeks because aromasin is suicidal. with adex all you need to do is up the dose or lower the dose over a few days to dial it in without any worry. to top it all off its, worse for hair loss compared to adex.

this thread actaully talked me out of using it. lol. i've dialed in my adex dosing so well with various cycle that I just can see myself having to go through the dial in phase all over again.

[chuckz28]

This thread has me wanting to give aromasin a try on my next cycle.

[ROCKETW19]

Yeah I ran letro for a bit, went through 3 bottles at the dosage recommendation you had in one of the threads. No luck, I think I have had it too long. Letro is some rough shit though.

what dose did you get to and how long on it? what were your sides? I have had zero estro before its to fun if it happened to you I would of expected more response from ya, lol

[HalfMunky]

have you tried removing the lump with letro? worth a try before surgery. letro is harsh shit and will kill your estro levels but it can and has removed actual hard lumps in many people.

Yeah I ran letro for a bit, went through 3 bottles at the dosage recommendation you had in one of the threads. No luck, I think I have had it too long. Letro is some rough shit though.

[Bouncer]

I love stane. I use to get mine from Iron-dragon but I dont know what the word on that site is now. I ran 12.5 ED. Right now I am running adex at .50ED. I already have a hard lump behind my left nipple from long before I found out about adex, letro, nolva etc. etc. and it's there to stay until I get it removed in a couple weeks.

The reason I like stane is because when I run a cycle the lump (the actual mass) and not the nipple gets really fucking painful. Stane takes away the pain, honestly IDK why. With Adex the mass is still tender AF. I'm running .50ED of adex.

Not sure if this helps anyone, but if it does cool.

have you tried removing the lump with letro? worth a try before surgery. letro is harsh shit and will kill your estro levels but it can and has removed actual hard lumps in many people.

[HalfMunky]

I love stane. I use to get mine from Iron-dragon but I dont know what the word on that site is now. I ran 12.5 ED. Right now I am running adex at .50ED. I already have a hard lump behind my left nipple from long before I found out about adex, letro, nolva etc. etc. and it's there to stay until I get it removed in a couple weeks.

The reason I like stane is because when I run a cycle the lump (the actual mass) and not the nipple gets really fucking painful. Stane takes away the pain, honestly IDK why. With Adex the mass is still tender AF. I'm running .50ED of adex.

Not sure if this helps anyone, but if it does cool.

[Bouncer]

yea i think its a but silly for people "not to trust" the liquid research places when it comes to cheap basic things like nolv, clom, adex, letro, aromasin etc.. these things are so cheap and easy to make that there is no reason to fake it or underdose it if they are trying to make money as a company and last as a company.

I've used various liquid research places over the years (current favorite maximpeptide) but they have all done the job when it comes to estro control. about 6-7 years ago I had a small grape sized lump under left nip. liquid letro completly and I mean compleltly removed it.

it very easy to know when certain drugs are real or fake. estro blockers are one of those drugs. if i stop my current dose of .25mgs adex EOD I WILL have lumps within 2 weeks with puffy nips starting within a week. it's reall that simple for me.

BUT, like i said earlier. when it comes to the expensive peptides like igf lr3 and SARMS and shit like that, yes I agree. I do have my doubts. the temptation to underdose those kinds of products is definitely there for a shady company to do so if they wanted.

to me it's like a basic AAS source. not even a great one just an average one. you can pretty much count on stuff like test or dbol being real because the raw powders are so cheap and it's so easy for people to tell if its working or not. BUT when it comes to expensive or more rare shit like Primo or anavar then yes, the inncemtive is there for the source to fake those products and use something cheaper like EQ in place of primo and winny in place of anavar.

for me it comes down to common sense. basic, cheap products are almost guaranteed to be real. the more expensive and rare the product the more incentive there is for the source to fake.

with that said though, i must say MK-677 from southern sarms is some powerful shit. shit blew me up. thing is though with mk-677 is that the body quickly adjust and after about 2 weeks nothing happens. next time I run it I'm gonna try 1 week on 1 week off to see if that prevents the body from adapting while continuing to grow.

[jolter604]

And that was from a liquid peptides aromasin site.

[Bouncer]

Def don't want estro too low. Kills Gaines, hurts joints, kills sex drive.

[ROCKETW19]

god stuff nor your at 15. thats on the edge of to low, I know you think no such thing but trust me you dont want to low. besides you need estro to grow.

I forget how you were taking it but id take a lil less. I can ask my HRT doc whats the lowest next time I am in there as I have no clue but i will find out

[jolter604]

Good thread thanks for the replys. I'm not trying to take this junk ED lol I'd lower my dose or change something before I take a pill everyday.
Anyone get blood work here. I see your doses and timing ect but where is that leaving you? Of coarse I'm gonna experiment and get my own blood work done but I'd like to see where you guys at?

Right now I take .5 adex 12 hours after my injection test e 300mgs and my estro is 27 according to my doc that's perfect. I also test 4 days after so my estro is def at its normal range.

Me and B don't agree on this but these low doses EOD shit is stupid and I can say that cuz I get blood work proof and you don't lmao.

I'm only swapping off adex cuz I have it and out of adex in a lil bit. I can get more but even with out the adex I don't feel anything or notice any problem Gyno what ever but blood says its high. So I take it

Well i was on 600 mg test e 500 mg npp and anadrol 25 mg aromaisin eod and it was like 18 estro

[ROCKETW19]

Good thread thanks for the replys. I'm not trying to take this junk ED lol I'd lower my dose or change something before I take a pill everyday.
Anyone get blood work here. I see your doses and timing ect but where is that leaving you? Of coarse I'm gonna experiment and get my own blood work done but I'd like to see where you guys at?

Right now I take .5 adex 12 hours after my injection test e 300mgs and my estro is 27 according to my doc that's perfect. I also test 4 days after so my estro is def at its normal range.

Me and B don't agree on this but these low doses EOD shit is stupid and I can say that cuz I get blood work proof and you don't lmao.

I'm only swapping off adex cuz I have it and out of adex in a lil bit. I can get more but even with out the adex I don't feel anything or notice any problem Gyno what ever but blood says its high. So I take it

[Bouncer]

See that's not my experience with adex though. I've used it with test/deca/dbol at the same time (that article says it's bad at controlling dbol sides.)

the adex works perfect with that stack for me. Between the test, the deca, and the dbol I was using a total of 875mgs and just a bit of adex kept all sides gone. No gyno, proper working pecker, not too emotional etc..

I guess sometimes I just feel that there tends to be a hive mind mentality on the forums when everyone does one thing after reading an article without asking themselves "wait a minute, what has my personal experience been?"

I'm not saying it's better or worse, I'm just saying my experience with adex does not match the article above that Frank posted.

Plus read the last part of that article guys... Aromasin is much worse at making your hair fall out apparently.

For me it's a case of it ain't broke don't fix it. Adex has been perfect for me so I'm not gonna chance it and fuck it up with something else that takes time to dial in estro levels when I've already dialed them in perfectly with adex.

[FrankTheTank55]

Suicidal AI vs Non suicidal/binding AI


Adex and letro are non suicidal AI?s all they do is bind any estrogen you convert directly on your aromataze enzyme. Each AI binds a different percentage of estrogen, letro binds more than adex of course. Problem with biding AI?s is once you seize use all the estro that had accumulated over the weeks/months you were using the AI suddenly gets released this process is called estrogen rebound and I am sure you know it can be far worse than estrogen while on a cycle since normaly when you drop your AI you either cruise with a low dose of test or pct. In both cases you have far less test in you and once all that estrogen is released you got a much higher chance of getting gyno and of course you are going to be bloated like a balloon and feel soft for weeks till your estro comes down to normal levels.


Aromasin is the new generation of AI its suicidal, the difference being with the other AI?s is Aromasin will actually destroy/kill a certain percentage of your aromataze enzyme so by doing so it also kills any estrogen that was attached to that enzyme. Means when you stop using aromasin you wont rebound at all like you would with the binding AI?s and if anything you will have to wait for a while for your body to start producing more aromataze (very bad if you crashed your estro comparing to the other AI?s). Each person is different in the rate they create new aromataze for me it takes around 2 weeks for someone else it can take one or three weeks. Only way you can speed up the process is by using HGH, you can use all the dbol you want all the test suspension you want if you crashed your estro with aromasin and you don?t have aromataze you wont even bloat from those compounds there wont be any estrogen conversion, also you will get 0 results from the dbol at least.




Arimidex/Anastrozole


Adex will lower your estro by about 50-60% of course if you keep taking it that percentage accumulates so you lower 50% by another 50% and so on, you can easily end up with your estradiol in the singles if you take it for long enough at a high enough dose and you aren?t converting much estrogen from aromatizing gear (using low dose of test high dose AI). Adex imo is the best suited for trt purposes, reason being the rate of which it lowers estrogen compared to the other AI?s is smaller. For trt purposes you only need 1mg of total adex per week to keep estro in range (e2= 20-25ng/dl=sweet spot)


Why adex is bad for blasting: This small posting has been posted on another forum by a doctor not my words but reflects a lot of my experiences with adex


"Adex is not particularly effective for drugs that tend to be subject to peripheral aromatization, methandrostanolone in particular. Often a full 2mg daily of Adex will still not stop dbol bloat and cramping
Arimidex is best at E1 suppression (tissue affinity, gonadal, adrenal, etc and because its a competitive inhibitor). it suppress e1 at even the lowest of doses, but takes rather high doses to see significant impact on peripheral aromatase"


While cutting with a low test dose and non aromatizing gear is as good as an AI as any but while bulking with compounds that aromatize heavily Adex is the worst AI you can use. No matter how much you use you will still be much more bloated than you would by using aromasin/letro


Common dose while blasting: 0.5mg ed/eod
Trt dosage: 0.25mg eod, 1mg e6-7d




Aromasin/Exemestane


Hands down the best down for blasting but it does have its downsides. I found that the more you use aromasin the more senstitive you become to it. When starting out with aromasin even 25mg per day is a common dose for a mild cycle say 750mg test and 500mg deca. As time goes by the more you use it the less aromasin you will need, you will end up needing 12.5mg eod if not less for a mild cycle. It doesn?t happen in a few days though it takes months. Another drawback of aromasin is hairloss, comparing to the other AI?s I found it makes me shed a lot more. Once side effect of aromasin is Alopecia, the other two AI?s have hairloss/hair thinning as a side effect but not full blown Alopecia.


Like mentioned earlier the biggest fear with aromasin is crashing estro to low. At this point all you can do is wait or up your hgh dose. Give it at least 10days before you start taking any more AI even if you are switching to say Adex.


The best write up about aromasin which reflects my experience with it 100% is here:


Ahhhhh-romasin?! The king of anti-estrogens.