Aromasin?

[StanG]

good input. just to clarify. with adex you were using EOD but with aromasin you do ED? is that because the half life of adex is longer ya think?

Thats exactly why it is man.

[jack tors]

You probably have 25mgs tabs I use 12.5mgs EOD.

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Same here

Can you PM me where you got the tabs?

[jolter604]

Not sure how acurite this is but the old guy at my gym said adex just traps estro in its place and once u come off it released tons of it while u are on pct.and aromasin destroys the receptors.when i told him that nolva would keep the estro from creating gyno he said high estro fucks up a ton of shit.
Noe this is all from a older guy i have known frpm the gym since i first went to the gym.

[jolter604]

I dont trust peptide sites....

I will try 12.5 eod i dont remember if they have a split marc they are pfitzer

[Bouncer]

Not sure how acurite this is but the old guy at my gym said adex just traps estro in its place and once u come off it released tons of it while u are on pct.and aromasin destroys the receptors.when i told him that nolva would keep the estro from creating gyno he said high estro fucks up a ton of shit.
Noe this is all from a older guy i have known frpm the gym since i first went to the gym.

Nah, doesn't trap it in its place. Adex lowers estro levels in the body but when you come off there is a rebound effect.

Aromasin there is supposed to be no rebound.

[jack tors]

I swapped because I ran out of Adex. easy transition for me

[FrankTheTank55]

Not sure how acurite this is but the old guy at my gym said adex just traps estro in its place and once u come off it released tons of it while u are on pct.and aromasin destroys the receptors.when i told him that nolva would keep the estro from creating gyno he said high estro fucks up a ton of shit.
Noe this is all from a older guy i have known frpm the gym since i first went to the gym.

Actually he has it backwards. Nolvadex just blocks your receptors from absorbing the estrogen. Thats why you don't take Nolvadex during your cycle. The estrogen is just building up. Where Aromasin or Adex stops estrogen from even being produced.

[jack tors]

I dont trust peptide sites....

I don't either I want to get all pills - clomid/nolva/ etc. having trouble finding pill form

I heard the liquid is cheaper to make and lower quality. either way I rather have the pill form

[Chadd77]

who'd you end up going with? maximpeptide? that's who i use now. always cheap especially with the sales and keep the sides away @ .25 EOD adex even on 700mgs total test E deca cycle.

Yep that's where I got it from!

[Mr I]

Yes I have and it knocks the spots off arimidex

[Bouncer]

Yes I have and it knocks the spots off arimidex

More detail? In what way? If I'm using adex and it's working perfectly in terms of keeping sides away what would the benefit be for me to switch? Do you feel better on it? Is there some other reason that I should use it if adex works great for me?

[FrankTheTank55]

More detail? In what way? If I'm using adex and it's working perfectly in terms of keeping sides away what would the benefit be for me to switch? Do you feel better on it? Is there some other reason that I should use it if adex works great for me?

When you were in the hospital did they test your liver values? I think arimidex is harder on the liver then aromasin. Thats one thing that might be different between the two. I'm gonna talk to the guy that put me onto aromasin.

[Bouncer]

When you were in the hospital did they test your liver values? I think arimidex is harder on the liver then aromasin. Thats one thing that might be different between the two. I'm gonna talk to the guy that put me onto aromasin.

Yea but you gotta remember I was on dbol and had just dropped drol at the time so my liver values were def elevated.

I dropped orals but stayed on adex test and deca. Re took Blood work 3 weeks later and liver values were normal.

[FrankTheTank55]

Suicidal AI vs Non suicidal/binding AI


Adex and letro are non suicidal AI?s all they do is bind any estrogen you convert directly on your aromataze enzyme. Each AI binds a different percentage of estrogen, letro binds more than adex of course. Problem with biding AI?s is once you seize use all the estro that had accumulated over the weeks/months you were using the AI suddenly gets released this process is called estrogen rebound and I am sure you know it can be far worse than estrogen while on a cycle since normaly when you drop your AI you either cruise with a low dose of test or pct. In both cases you have far less test in you and once all that estrogen is released you got a much higher chance of getting gyno and of course you are going to be bloated like a balloon and feel soft for weeks till your estro comes down to normal levels.


Aromasin is the new generation of AI its suicidal, the difference being with the other AI?s is Aromasin will actually destroy/kill a certain percentage of your aromataze enzyme so by doing so it also kills any estrogen that was attached to that enzyme. Means when you stop using aromasin you wont rebound at all like you would with the binding AI?s and if anything you will have to wait for a while for your body to start producing more aromataze (very bad if you crashed your estro comparing to the other AI?s). Each person is different in the rate they create new aromataze for me it takes around 2 weeks for someone else it can take one or three weeks. Only way you can speed up the process is by using HGH, you can use all the dbol you want all the test suspension you want if you crashed your estro with aromasin and you don?t have aromataze you wont even bloat from those compounds there wont be any estrogen conversion, also you will get 0 results from the dbol at least.




Arimidex/Anastrozole


Adex will lower your estro by about 50-60% of course if you keep taking it that percentage accumulates so you lower 50% by another 50% and so on, you can easily end up with your estradiol in the singles if you take it for long enough at a high enough dose and you aren?t converting much estrogen from aromatizing gear (using low dose of test high dose AI). Adex imo is the best suited for trt purposes, reason being the rate of which it lowers estrogen compared to the other AI?s is smaller. For trt purposes you only need 1mg of total adex per week to keep estro in range (e2= 20-25ng/dl=sweet spot)


Why adex is bad for blasting: This small posting has been posted on another forum by a doctor not my words but reflects a lot of my experiences with adex


"Adex is not particularly effective for drugs that tend to be subject to peripheral aromatization, methandrostanolone in particular. Often a full 2mg daily of Adex will still not stop dbol bloat and cramping
Arimidex is best at E1 suppression (tissue affinity, gonadal, adrenal, etc and because its a competitive inhibitor). it suppress e1 at even the lowest of doses, but takes rather high doses to see significant impact on peripheral aromatase"


While cutting with a low test dose and non aromatizing gear is as good as an AI as any but while bulking with compounds that aromatize heavily Adex is the worst AI you can use. No matter how much you use you will still be much more bloated than you would by using aromasin/letro


Common dose while blasting: 0.5mg ed/eod
Trt dosage: 0.25mg eod, 1mg e6-7d




Aromasin/Exemestane


Hands down the best down for blasting but it does have its downsides. I found that the more you use aromasin the more senstitive you become to it. When starting out with aromasin even 25mg per day is a common dose for a mild cycle say 750mg test and 500mg deca. As time goes by the more you use it the less aromasin you will need, you will end up needing 12.5mg eod if not less for a mild cycle. It doesn?t happen in a few days though it takes months. Another drawback of aromasin is hairloss, comparing to the other AI?s I found it makes me shed a lot more. Once side effect of aromasin is Alopecia, the other two AI?s have hairloss/hair thinning as a side effect but not full blown Alopecia.


Like mentioned earlier the biggest fear with aromasin is crashing estro to low. At this point all you can do is wait or up your hgh dose. Give it at least 10days before you start taking any more AI even if you are switching to say Adex.


The best write up about aromasin which reflects my experience with it 100% is here:


Ahhhhh-romasin?! The king of anti-estrogens.

[Bouncer]

See that's not my experience with adex though. I've used it with test/deca/dbol at the same time (that article says it's bad at controlling dbol sides.)

the adex works perfect with that stack for me. Between the test, the deca, and the dbol I was using a total of 875mgs and just a bit of adex kept all sides gone. No gyno, proper working pecker, not too emotional etc..

I guess sometimes I just feel that there tends to be a hive mind mentality on the forums when everyone does one thing after reading an article without asking themselves "wait a minute, what has my personal experience been?"

I'm not saying it's better or worse, I'm just saying my experience with adex does not match the article above that Frank posted.

Plus read the last part of that article guys... Aromasin is much worse at making your hair fall out apparently.

For me it's a case of it ain't broke don't fix it. Adex has been perfect for me so I'm not gonna chance it and fuck it up with something else that takes time to dial in estro levels when I've already dialed them in perfectly with adex.