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  • #46
    Originally posted by Bouncer View Post
    You don't have blood work comparing e5d vs e10 day. You just have blood work from when you were shooting every 10 days that show elevated total test levels. You have no blood work whatsoever that compares blood level stability between 5 days and 10. You don't understand half lives that's clear. Just because your total testosterone level was high with every 10 day shots does NOT mean you had stable blood levels. Had you taken blood work 5 days after a shot and again 10 days after a shot you would have seen a major difference.
    You have zero labs to go off your words. You're a good internet finder for sure, I'll give you that.

    My proof that e10d works? My overall physique and mental health. I've yet to encounter these emotional roller coasters some get.

    Post facts of e5 vs e10 and i will tip my hat off...facts...not rubbish.

    Stable bloods you will repeat over and over, fine. But prove to me how a 5 day difference is THAT detrimental, it is NOT.

    Lip is new at this, he should of began at e10 for 200 mgs or 250 and after a month or two, adjust accordingly if needed.

    Not gonna play a tennis match bro, you have your bro science and i have my true experience on e5 and e10 day shots, been there done that.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by lipripper View Post
      I agree with all of yall are saying on this all the different views/ opinions. I'm gonna run this dose for a while then make an assessment. I'm not going to be playing with doses and times etc this early into the game. I like the idea of being stable not fluctuating.

      Its only going on 20 days(tomorrow) I feel that my body is still adjusting to this and at some point in the near future I will go with the lab work as that is a smart thing to do. At that time Ill make another assessment as to where I'm at..what the blood work says and see what I want to do with what direction I want to head. I think at that time Ill have a lot more information at hand to make a smart move. I appreciate everyone's thoughts and opinions on this.
      Good stuff lip!

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      • #48
        Originally posted by rado View Post
        You have zero labs to go off your words. You're a good internet finder for sure, I'll give you that.

        My proof that e10d works? My overall physique and mental health. I've yet to encounter these emotional roller coasters some get.

        Post facts of e5 vs e10 and i will tip my hat off...facts...not rubbish.

        Stable bloods you will repeat over and over, fine. But prove to me how a 5 day difference is THAT detrimental, it is NOT.

        Lip is new at this, he should of began at e10 for 200 mgs or 250 and after a month or two, adjust accordingly if needed.

        Not gonna play a tennis match bro, you have your bro science and i have my true experience on e5 and e10 day shots, been there done that.


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        • #49
          Originally posted by Bouncer View Post


          I've seen that, back in 1980...i wanna see labs of s person of e5 vs e10.

          Bro im all set, neither of us is wrong, different folks different strokes.

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          • #50
            No your absolutely wrong when it comes to half lives. You can't grasp how they work.

            You think just because you had elevated test levels after 10 days that proves your point.

            Had you taken half the dose and shot e5d your levels would have been more stable. I'm not saying they would have been higher. This argument is about stable blood levels.

            Use your mind bro. Why is 10 days your magic cutoff point? Why not 20 days or 30 days? Why not just shoot 1000mgs once per month. Because you know that's not how it works. In your brain 10 days sounds ok so you go with it without any real understanding of half lives.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by lipripper View Post
              I agree with all of yall are saying on this all the different views/ opinions. I'm gonna run this dose for a while then make an assessment. I'm not going to be playing with doses and times etc this early into the game. I like the idea of being stable not fluctuating.

              Its only going on 20 days(tomorrow) I feel that my body is still adjusting to this and at some point in the near future I will go with the lab work as that is a smart thing to do. At that time Ill make another assessment as to where I'm at..what the blood work says and see what I want to do with what direction I want to head. I think at that time Ill have a lot more information at hand to make a smart move. I appreciate everyone's thoughts and opinions on this.
              That's right Lipripper you've been natty. I forgot. I was thinking dam he acts like this is his first time. lol Sorry bro.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by piratex View Post
                That's right Lipripper you've been natty. I forgot. I was thinking dam he acts like this is his first time. lol Sorry bro.
                Lmao....yea I'm a old dude...been around the world a few times.....but I'm a rookie ass in this game:agreed:

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by lipripper View Post
                  Lmao....yea I'm a old dude...been around the world a few times.....but I'm a rookie ass in this game:agreed:
                  Old or not, you'd be the first fucker I'd be picking to go to battle with son! :)

                  Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G935A using Tapatalk

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Bouncer View Post
                    125mgs E5D is far better than 250mgs E10D. You seem unable to grasp the idea of a half life and stable blood levels.
                    that would be a more real HRT dose and something most could handle for life.

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                    • #55
                      I do agree with B that e5d is better than e10d I wouldn't go over 7. some really sensitive people can feel it dropping at 4 and 5 days. I dont notice anything so I just do it 1 time per week.
                      it is also proven science that 2 injections per week is better than 1 I just dont have any issues so keep to 7 days.

                      you are full blown nuts if you do not get a full blood panel soon. you decided to make it a life choice correct? then do it right and know whats going on. your nips get hot so you just take Adex? dont you want to know whats going on inside? estrogen is the root to all thing bad for men. it causes everything we do not want. yet we need some its a line you have to find with blood work not feeling thats fucking crazy.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by ROCKETW19 View Post
                        I do agree with B that e5d is better than e10d I wouldn't go over 7. some really sensitive people can feel it dropping at 4 and 5 days. I dont notice anything so I just do it 1 time per week.
                        it is also proven science that 2 injections per week is better than 1 I just dont have any issues so keep to 7 days.

                        you are full blown nuts if you do not get a full blood panel soon. you decided to make it a life choice correct? then do it right and know whats going on. your nips get hot so you just take Adex? dont you want to know whats going on inside? estrogen is the root to all thing bad for men. it causes everything we do not want. yet we need some its a line you have to find with blood work not feeling thats fucking crazy.
                        You've definitely gotten extra cautious over the years lol. If my nips get sensitive on test I take adex until it's fixed. That's how it's always been done. Nobody got blood work over some fucken sensitive nips back in the day.

                        Now I agree in terms of his age and life choice to know where he stands in terms if his health but I disagree you need to run to the doc everytime your nips get sensitive from AAS.

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                        • #57
                          UPDATE: Day 20

                          Mood general feeing is fucking great!

                          Nips got some sensitivity earlier in the week, running the Adex and it has helped some. Keeping a close eye on it and will adjust dose if I think its needed.

                          No weight change, still setting at 209. so the 6 lbs I gained is sticking at this point.

                          Sex drive is about the same as last week, no big changes but an overall improvement from where I was when started for sure.

                          Appetite. I still feel like I'm fucking starving between my meals..Its crazy. been like this the last couple weeks now. I want to eat more to satisfy it but I'm not. I'm not sure if Ill be stopping any growth by not feeding more, but I know in the past Ill just start putting flab on in mid section if I get over what calorie I'm doing now. So I'm gonna stick to it as I don't want to do that.

                          Workouts : they have remained intense, increased the weights a bit on cable machines, but not free weights. Just getting in another set on those. Feel great in the gym. I want more each work out. seeing slight gains in strength and stamina/ endurance for sure.

                          Now as far as running for life, yes I stated I want to be "on" as I cannot believe the change its given me. Energy, mood, sex drive. Its true, I feel like I'm 30 again.Why the fuck would I want to ever go back to feeling like shit? Its hard to believe how bad I really was...and never knew it.

                          I understand there are risks involved in this, I also get that 200 MG E5D is probably way too much to stay on and run for ever. Im gonna run this for a couple months and then see where I'm at. at that time Ill get bloods done and make adjustments. I guess it can be looked at like a first cycle if you will, just a low dose one. Taking baby steps..:rofl:

                          I do appreciate the concerns and the discussion about this. Its fucking great actually. keep it coming.:D See Bouncer, now I finally have something to post about besides the swamps on this shit site:rofl:

                          Hopefully this can help someone else out down the road at a later date...just like I have followed what all ya'll have been doing for the last 5 years.:thumup:

                          Also, as far as blood work goes. I got it done last about a year ago.. My Dr told me it was very boring as the only issue I had was my youric acid(sp) levels were a bit high( gout).. other then that good to go.
                          Last edited by lipripper; 04-04-17, 08:00 AM.

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                          • #58
                            UDATE: Day 25
                            Mood is still great,

                            Workouts in gym are still intense..defiantly pushing it harder and want more. Just don't get gassed like I used to.

                            Appetite I still feel fucking hungry all the time in between meals.

                            Weight, did loose 2 lbs this week. I'm guessing this has a lot to do with Turkey hunting as I'm going a lot and when hunting meals wont be as normal carrying them in my turkey vest. plus miles of trekking thru the swamps burns a lot of calories. On the good side of that, I put a notch in my belt..waist has really started to show it, not like I was a fat fuck before though.
                            Although I lost 2 lbs I still look a lot better with this little loss as I have shown improvement in my definition in other places. While I'm still a skinny bastard, its a lot better.

                            Coming up on 30 days and I'm not looking back!!!

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                            • #59
                              Make sure you drink water bro. Shoot for a gallon a day.

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                              • #60
                                Here's what My doctor prescribed me. 100mgs of cyp Monday and Thursday .25mgs of adex Tuesday and and Friday. Ohh also 250ius of hcg three times a week but I don't ever use the hcg

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