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Looks like it yes.Originally posted by FrankTheTank55 View PostDo you guys think Metformin will lower IGF-1??? I was taking 1000mgs before bed.
Not only does it lower igf but it lowers free testosterone and raises shbg. All bad things.
Brings up a good point though. Certain drugs like letro are known to be pretty severe at lowering igf levels. So if someone is running that while running gh it could lead to lower scores.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10770203
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I have to say that this stuff felt potent! So I was shocked when I saw that score but if the Metformin is the reason for that then I think this stuff might be pretty legit. I have Omnitrope coming and that is premixed as well. So we will see how those compare.
It's just so many factors can play into these blood tests. I don't think it's a end all be all determination on the quality of a product. The hgh serum score was right on point with US Pharma hgh. So I'm interested in seeing other results and hopefully we all can learn a little something.
I want to say that SelectHGH has been great to deal with and he is very knowledgeable. Good guy to work with!
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I do wonder. If someone was on a bunch of chemicals that are known to lower igf but you ran GH. Would you get the results from GH even with low igf scores or is it actually the high IGF itself that gives those results in the first place. In other words, is there nothing more to GH aside from igf? Does it have any benefit if you take away its ability to raise IGF? Can anyone actually answer that without just a guess?Originally posted by FrankTheTank55 View PostI have to say that this stuff felt potent! So I was shocked when I saw that score but if the Metformin is the reason for that then I think this stuff might be pretty legit. I have Omnitrope coming and that is premixed as well. So we will see how those compare.
It's just so many factors can play into these blood tests. I don't think it's a end all be all determination on the quality of a product. The hgh serum score was right on point with US Pharma hgh. So I'm interested in seeing other results and hopefully we all can learn a little something.
I want to say that SelectHGH has been great to deal with and he is very knowledgeable. Good guy to work with!
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yes I am here I will tell you AGAIN you are a fucking scammer you can not even get half dosed GH. when you grow up and run with the big dogs you can call me out but as of right now you are 0-2 both making you look like shit with your fake junk. next question?Originally posted by SelectHGH View PostOriginally 50IU in each bottle, but I think that the road survived about 40IU. I hope I'm mistaken and this GH is more tenacious than we used to think) Now a specialist arrives who will tell us what's the matter - rocketw19, we are waiting for your opinion)
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LMAO so you want me to rub it in?Originally posted by SelectHGH View PostOh, do not disappoint us. We are interested in the opinion of competitors on any issue. Can it also gh from China? Do you think your secret formula works better? Find out from the guy who controls the whole gh in the world and sells it only to you at a discount, and his opinion is also interesting.
you a competitor lol I do not sell drugs and I bet I have more people asking me to get GH for them than you do. Id bet a lot also.
you sell swap water home boy kick rocks.
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he is the only one I have ever seen with such bull shit numbers. his IGF was not 363 off test and tren I dont care what anyone saysOriginally posted by Bouncer View PostSee this kind of thing is where I'm starting to see that igf isn't as straight forward as I honestly thought. Your saying your igf was at 363 and you weren't even on GH yet now it's 73. I don't know what to make of that. Huge difference in igf levels yet no GH was even involved. I'm getting sick of fucken igf lol.
trem raises IGF but no real number I personally never noticed it at all either has Rado and he runs it all the time. if tren raised IGF so high why do people pay for GH? exactly cuz it dose not.
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doc will script it pretty easy at 1 IU per day and no way in hell will insurance pay for it and for 126ius of serostim its almost 4000 dollars from pharmacyOriginally posted by Bouncer View PostIf you could find a doc he'd prob put you on the tinniest dose and I doubt insurance would even pay for it. Probably cost you a grand an IU or some crazy shit.
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guys you talk to are fucking idiots. what board is this at? I have tested 5 days from starting and my numbers came back as they always do 350 on 2.5iusOriginally posted by FrankTheTank55 View PostWell this doesn't look to promising... Guys I've talked to said the it takes 4 weeks to get your igf-1 levels up so maybe I tested to soon??? But started with a baseline of 75 and it only went up 119 points. I'm really surprised because I'm feeling the sides of hgh, numb hands and fatigue.
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chad did a real short time also to help me prove that 2 week was a myth made up by some one and repeated like normal. or maybe some one guessing like you do who knows but its wrong way way wrong
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bouncer already asked him if he was taking anything else he said NO.Originally posted by SelectHGH View PostThe initial level of IGF was also extremely low, perhaps due to concomitant medications, or for another reason. But we have 2 more people who do smt test, and we will be able to understand the reason for such indicators. And before that time - smt will not appear in our store. The risk of sending this gh is too high.
so keep fishing your shit is junk. ONE company has mastered the pre mixed vial and only one. you think the swamp water was gonna be like that? lol you probably did.
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100% and I will say the same thing.Originally posted by rado View PostThis is where bouncer had mentioned the WHAT IF someone is tampering with chems to make the numb hands feeling, the lethargy, etc.....we really don't know until someone actually pays for the product to be tested and i would do it if I knew of such labs
dont get all pissy but remember you claimed your wrists were all swollen? they were not remember when frank claimed to be ripped he is not. its natural instinct in what you both do. its just wrong and if frank is ripped he changed his diet it had nothing to do with this swamp water thats a fact
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