Ansomone

[Leledc]

serum scores were 20s the quality of GH has nothing to do with the water retention. I wish I knew why we retain so much water on generics and not USA. people always say its filler but if you ask what kind they dont know cuz they are repeating or guessing. fillers might be correct but why and what are they? are they killing us?
so much shit we just will never know cuz we can't do the real testing anymore.

Usually to much water weight is correlated to a lot of impurity

[HGHLABZ.com]

Mmm the igf of Chad was the same that u will have with 4 iu of western pharma, i know for sure that the ansomone is used in the hospital in china but the 40 iu vials with the red box not the blu one!
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Ankebio has next sizes:
2 IU/Vial, 4 IU/Vial, 4.5 IU/Vial, 6 IU/Vial, 10 IU/Vial, 16 IU/Vial.

[HGHLABZ.com]

they are for Chinese hospitals but have English directions come on bro WTF?

Besides this they also have website english version:)

[Leledc]

Ankebio has next sizes:
2 IU/Vial, 4 IU/Vial, 4.5 IU/Vial, 6 IU/Vial, 10 IU/Vial, 16 IU/Vial.

Yeah buddy, i was talking about the one who use the daughter of my familiar

[HGHLABZ.com]

NOT in USA no matter how much. in china there are no rules this is why they say Pharma but thats misleading as they are no where near us. anyone can go say Pharma in china even me.

There are Pharma HGH manufacturers and UGL generic HGH manufacturers in China.
But all of them will talk you that they pharma hgh manufacturers :wack:

[HGHLABZ.com]

serum scores were 20s the quality of GH has nothing to do with the water retention. I wish I knew why we retain so much water on generics and not USA. people always say its filler but if you ask what kind they dont know cuz they are repeating or guessing. fillers might be correct but why and what are they? are they killing us?
so much shit we just will never know cuz we can't do the real testing anymore.

somatrem keeps more water in the body than somatropin.
When you see in vial white powder tablet that filler. Main filler is mannitol. By themselves these fillers are safe

[Bouncer]

somatrem keeps more water in the body than somatropin.
When you see in vial white powder tablet that filler. Main filler is mannitol. By themselves these fillers are safe

What is somatrem? How is it different from somatropin? I'm getting more confused. Lol

I looked up mannitol and it seems it's in the diuretic family? Wouldnt that cause the opposite reaction of water retention?

[HGHLABZ.com]

somatrem it's analog somatropin.
somatrem has 191+1 amino acid, total 192aa
is actually a growth hormone mimic with potentially nasty side effects.

Almost all generic have it instead of somatropin 191aa. Because it's cheaper than somatropin.

when using somatrem, the level of antibodies can reach 40%, instead of <1% in the original hormone 191aa.

[HGHLABZ.com]

mannitol use in low concetration.
In the process of lyophilization, it crystallizes and makes this tablet inside the vial solid.

[Bouncer]

somatrem it's analog somatropin.
somatrem has 191+1 amino acid, total 192aa
is actually a growth hormone mimic with potentially nasty side effects.

Almost all generic have it instead of somatropin 191aa. Because it's cheaper than somatropin.

when using somatrem, the level of antibodies can reach 40%, instead of <1% in the original hormone 191aa.

So somatrem is 192aa GH and most generics have it because it's cheaper to make? Just making sure I'm understanding you correctly.

Next question, is it possible that this somatrem produces high igf scores without giving actual physical results due to the antibodies rendering it useless in the body? In other words could this product produce high igf score yet have no ability to burn fat or put on muscle due to the antibodies?

If I'm understanding all this correctly and what your saying is correct this changes up the whole game really. Basically means that igf score could in effect be useless with this sort of product.

[rado]

So somatrem is 192aa GH and most generics have it because it's cheaper to make? Just making sure I'm understanding you correctly.

Next question, is it possible that this somatrem produces high igf scores without giving actual physical results due to the antibodies rendering it useless in the body? In other words could this product produce high igf score yet have no ability to burn fat or put on muscle due to the antibodies?

If I'm understanding all this correctly and what your saying is correct this changes up the whole game really. Basically means that igf score could in effect be useless with this sort of product.

Well Damn lol

Good way to put it but fucks sake, sticking with gear seems less of a blood pressure issue:thumup:

[Bouncer]

I'm just trying to get a true understanding of what's going on here. If all this is true we would effectively have no way at all of testing GH anymore. I'd like rocket in on this one. Thoughts please.

[HGHLABZ.com]

So somatrem is 192aa GH and most generics have it because it's cheaper to make? Just making sure I'm understanding you correctly.

Next question, is it possible that this somatrem produces high igf scores without giving actual physical results due to the antibodies rendering it useless in the body? In other words could this product produce high igf score yet have no ability to burn fat or put on muscle due to the antibodies?

If I'm understanding all this correctly and what your saying is correct this changes up the whole game really. Basically means that igf score could in effect be useless with this sort of product.

yes, that's right.

somatrem as somatropin analog will show you result in blood serum and IGF test.

But I did not compare it 1:1 ( 10ui somatropin vs 10ui somatrem for example). I don't know who give me more IFG

The main thing that is somatrem (in long cycle) increases the antibodies . That antibodies to YOUR own growth hormone.

[Chadd77]

I know Rocket has mentioned this in the past. But the 192aa GH always caused a painful injection and redness at the injection spot. Maybe the Chinese have found a way to make these sides go away. Don't know.

But I think it really comes down to trusting your source. Find a good source and stick with him.

[rado]

Results would be the clear indicator. It's whether or not one would take such financial risk