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  • Tips For Reducing PIP (Post Injection Pain)

    Here are tips on how to treat/prevent PIP.

    1.Heat the oil.
    Choose to warm the oil once it's in the syringe barrel under hot waer for a few minutes, or in a heating pad or warm the whole vial,which is up to you. Increasing the temperature to around body temp really makes a huge difference. It allows the oil to slide in quicker, which reducing the time that you can wiggle the needle around, and also reduces the amount of pressure requires to push in the plunger (same deal, less wiggling). Lastly, having injected intentionally cooled oil, room temp and warm oil,the chilled is the most painful, followed by room temp.... Heating it reduces PIP, no doubt.

    2.Use the shortest needle possible.
    Performing an intramuscular injection is better (avoid the subcutaneous layer, it will hurt). For example, if you are lean you can use a 5/8" needle in you delts, no need for a 1" or 1.5".Longer the needle, the more pressure and time required to perform the injection... Which means again, more wiggling. Also,it causes less tissue damage by penetrating less of the muscle. By using various lengths in different areas, which it’s helpful.

    3. Use the longest ester that will work for you cycle/plans. Test is test. If you are running a long cycle, run a longer ester. No need to pin propionate, for example, daily when enanthate would be a fine choice. Generally speaking longer esters are available in higher MG/ML, as well as less painful post injection. This is no longer the case with concentrations over 300MG's/ML, as that will be arguably more painful than the short esters. Stick to 300MG's/ML or less.

    4. Avoid water based AAS, if possible. If you wish to run injectable winstrol or testosterone suspension, for example, opt for the oil based versions. They hurt significantly less, and also don't clog up the needles like water based sometimes do (this become a real pain in the ass). Winstrol and testosterone no ester are now readily available in oil versions, opt for those.

    5. Go slow with virgin muscles. Don't slam 3CCs into a muscle that has never been injected, taper up. Start with 1CC and add .5CC to the site each injection. At some point, you will learn which sites can hold various levels of oil.

    6. Roll out/massage the area post injection. About 5 minutes after you inject, start giving it a good massage. Move the oil around as much as you can. Ideally, you can put a heating pad on the area 5 minutes before you start rolling/massaging, as that seemed to help soften it all up. The massaging/rolling might be a tad bit uncomfortable, but it’s helpful.A hot bath works well here too.

    7. Work the area out after pinning. Try to time your workouts with your injections. When you know it's shoulder day, you inject shoulders about an hour pre workout. The area will feel a bit tight for the first 5 or so minutes during your lifts, just do a few good warm up sets, you will be good to go after that. Also, do not do the opposite and inject after you have trained an area, it sucks. Try and plan, it makes a big difference.

    8. Cut the oil if you need to. Some AAS are just more painful than others, it's a fact. When I find a compound, injectable anadrol for me, that hurts a fair bit, I cut it with sterile grape seed oil (GSO). You can use whichever oil you prefer, GSO is easy to find for me and relatively cheap. Let's say I was going to inject 1CC of anadrol, I will add 1CC of sterile GSO to the barrel as well. It's not as much the volume of oil that hurts (until you get to large amounts), as it's the drug itself. Diluting it helps, a lot.

    9. Rotate the injection sites as much as you can. If you are comfortable with trying new areas, it really helps give the older ones some time off to heal and rest.

    If you have found other techniques that work for you post them up! There's no reason to be in pain. If you try these techniques and your gear still gives you crippling pain, there's probably something wrong with your gear.

  • #2
    Good post. I'd add quality of gear. Sometimes you just need to make sure you have quality gear. If it's not well made and has too much BA in it it's going to hurt regardless. You should never have PIP with things like test e, test c, deca, mast, etc..

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Vickylmc View Post
      Here are tips on how to treat/prevent PIP.

      1.Heat the oil.
      Choose to warm the oil once it's in the syringe barrel under hot waer for a few minutes, or in a heating pad or warm the whole vial,which is up to you. Increasing the temperature to around body temp really makes a huge difference. It allows the oil to slide in quicker, which reducing the time that you can wiggle the needle around, and also reduces the amount of pressure requires to push in the plunger (same deal, less wiggling). Lastly, having injected intentionally cooled oil, room temp and warm oil,the chilled is the most painful, followed by room temp.... Heating it reduces PIP, no doubt.

      2.Use the shortest needle possible.
      Performing an intramuscular injection is better (avoid the subcutaneous layer, it will hurt). For example, if you are lean you can use a 5/8" needle in you delts, no need for a 1" or 1.5".Longer the needle, the more pressure and time required to perform the injection... Which means again, more wiggling. Also,it causes less tissue damage by penetrating less of the muscle. By using various lengths in different areas, which it’s helpful.

      3. Use the longest ester that will work for you cycle/plans. Test is test. If you are running a long cycle, run a longer ester. No need to pin propionate, for example, daily when enanthate would be a fine choice. Generally speaking longer esters are available in higher MG/ML, as well as less painful post injection. This is no longer the case with concentrations over 300MG's/ML, as that will be arguably more painful than the short esters. Stick to 300MG's/ML or less.

      4. Avoid water based AAS, if possible. If you wish to run injectable winstrol or testosterone suspension, for example, opt for the oil based versions. They hurt significantly less, and also don't clog up the needles like water based sometimes do (this become a real pain in the ass). Winstrol and testosterone no ester are now readily available in oil versions, opt for those.

      5. Go slow with virgin muscles. Don't slam 3CCs into a muscle that has never been injected, taper up. Start with 1CC and add .5CC to the site each injection. At some point, you will learn which sites can hold various levels of oil.

      6. Roll out/massage the area post injection. About 5 minutes after you inject, start giving it a good massage. Move the oil around as much as you can. Ideally, you can put a heating pad on the area 5 minutes before you start rolling/massaging, as that seemed to help soften it all up. The massaging/rolling might be a tad bit uncomfortable, but it’s helpful.A hot bath works well here too.

      7. Work the area out after pinning. Try to time your workouts with your injections. When you know it's shoulder day, you inject shoulders about an hour pre workout. The area will feel a bit tight for the first 5 or so minutes during your lifts, just do a few good warm up sets, you will be good to go after that. Also, do not do the opposite and inject after you have trained an area, it sucks. Try and plan, it makes a big difference.

      8. Cut the oil if you need to. Some AAS are just more painful than others, it's a fact. When I find a compound, injectable anadrol for me, that hurts a fair bit, I cut it with sterile grape seed oil (GSO). You can use whichever oil you prefer, GSO is easy to find for me and relatively cheap. Let's say I was going to inject 1CC of anadrol, I will add 1CC of sterile GSO to the barrel as well. It's not as much the volume of oil that hurts (until you get to large amounts), as it's the drug itself. Diluting it helps, a lot.

      9. Rotate the injection sites as much as you can. If you are comfortable with trying new areas, it really helps give the older ones some time off to heal and rest.

      If you have found other techniques that work for you post them up! There's no reason to be in pain. If you try these techniques and your gear still gives you crippling pain, there's probably something wrong with your gear.


      Great info brotha!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Bouncer View Post
        Good post. I'd add quality of gear. Sometimes you just need to make sure you have quality gear. If it's not well made and has too much BA in it it's going to hurt regardless. You should never have PIP with things like test e, test c, deca, mast, etc..
        Depends what you define as PIP.. is it right after injection or maybe one day after and you start to feel sore for one or 2 days...
        It also depends on the source as to how much BA they added in the compouds.
        I think that Ethyl Oleate is the best compound for gear.. completly painless..

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        • #5
          Originally posted by boricuarage79 View Post
          Depends what you define as PIP.. is it right after injection or maybe one day after and you start to feel sore for one or 2 days...
          It also depends on the source as to how much BA they added in the compouds.
          I think that Ethyl Oleate is the best compound for gear.. completly painless..

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          I feel absolutely no pain whatsoever on compounds like test e, deca, mast etc.. if you have pain on those type of compounds your gear isn't made right.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Bouncer View Post
            I feel absolutely no pain whatsoever on compounds like test e, deca, mast etc.. if you have pain on those type of compounds your gear isn't made right.
            Every one is different. I get sore here and there from some gear, but it's not bad and goes away like a day.. now there is a difference from getting sick after each injection.. now that is bad gear

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Bouncer View Post
              I feel absolutely no pain whatsoever on compounds like test e, deca, mast etc.. if you have pain on those type of compounds your gear isn't made right.
              Disagreed 100%....

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              • #8
                Originally posted by rado View Post
                Disagreed 100%....
                I second that

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by boricuarage79 View Post
                  I second that

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                  I will say that I've had little PIP from anything. But few times it has happened with stronger concentrations.

                  I've had PIP from scripted test, yea that's made wrong lol



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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by rado View Post
                    I will say that I've had little PIP from anything. But few times it has happened with stronger concentrations.

                    I've had PIP from scripted test, yea that's made wrong lol



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                    Yea like wise with the scripted Test.. as long it's a minor pip that last one or 2 days it's fine.. anything over that the BA content is high and like I said before if it makes u sick.. i.e. test flu every Injection then it's bad crap

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                    • #11
                      Never any pain here. I guess people are just different.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Bouncer View Post
                        Never any pain here. I guess people are just different.
                        you are a lucky boy.

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                        • #13
                          I've had pain in the past. Redness, swelling, etc.. but that was with crap gear. Certain compounds are always gonna hurt. Like injectable winny, fuck that. But I've never injected test e, test c, deca, or mast and had any pain as long as the gear was good.

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                          • #14
                            My last tren mast test cycle I injected in the triceps and good god my tricep looked like it had synthol. Still worked out, But went away in 2 days.. I guess that happen cause I have not pinned in the tris in years

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by boricuarage79 View Post
                              My last tren mast test cycle I injected in the triceps and good god my tricep looked like it had synthol. Still worked out, But went away in 2 days.. I guess that happen cause I have not pinned in the tris in years

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                              That's why I love delt shot even with test. Gives you little cannon ball delts for a few days.

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