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  • ROCKETS REVENGE
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    Originally posted by Chadd77 View Post
    lol can't wait until rocket see this. You know he will be typing like this:

    Nope I'm done I came here to see this I did now I'll
    Go back in my hole where people don't protect scammers and people don't say it's ok to get half doses gh when you paid for full dose.
    I have my real gh and no one wanted to listen have fun taking sides with a scammer

    Only thing is I'm upset some of the long time guys who PM me don't actually speak up like they do in thePMs

    If you don't buy your GH for HGHLABZ your fucking stupid no one but him has proven over time good product no one well other than mine but they not for sale I don't do that.

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  • SelectHGH
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    Originally posted by Bouncer View Post
    That's great. But if you don't fix the problems your currently having you are going to continue to sell GH that isn't good from your website. I honestly believe you need a new transporter or supplier because something is going wrong with your products bro. I don't believe you are intentionally scamming anyone.
    We have already stopped the sale of all Ans until the results of the testing. And it lasts 10 days (tomorrow should be the results) - I think we are doing everything possible to eliminate the possibility of sending initially bad gh.

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  • SelectHGH
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    And Yes, one of the unhappy customers are silent - Leledc, I remember, and now I will try to solve this problem faster.

    Maybe it's only one valid claim, but I don't want to leave a bad opinion, and will decide all claims.

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  • Bouncer
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    That's great. But if you don't fix the problems your currently having you are going to continue to sell GH that isn't good from your website. I honestly believe you need a new transporter or supplier because something is going wrong with your products bro. I don't believe you are intentionally scamming anyone.

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  • SelectHGH
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    Originally posted by Bouncer View Post
    When people are using 5iu of GH daily and their gh serum and igf levels are not even elevated the GH is no good. It's as simple as that. People have different levels of igf you are correct. But 5iu of GH daily should put anyone well above normal.
    It is a fact. And as I told you earlier - I'm not interested in advertising on the forum. Before leaving, I want to solve the problems that we have created - we have 2 disgruntled customer (maybe 3) and I need to solve these problems. I don't distribute promotions, discounts and other purchase motivators on this forum - I'm honestly trying to solve problems before leave.

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  • boricuarage79
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    Originally posted by SelectHGH View Post
    Apparently my knowledge of English again brought me a little. But, I caused a strong discussion). Look at the idea:

    1) In normal mode (without the use of injections gh), each person has his own level of IGF-1. It depends on many facts - the amount of production is regulated by hormones and the general state of the body.

    2) Why are two people of the same age, with approximately the same level of their own gh, the absolutely different values ​​of IGF-1? Firstly, this is the condition of the liver. If the liver suffers from AAS, fatty foods, alcohol, liver disease (for example, cirrhosis) - it produces significantly less IGF.

    But when external gh is taken, one more factor is added to these factors - to take into account the resistance of the organism. For example, Chadd - guy is fucking lucky with genetics. He can raise his IGF-1 +100 from each IU. This indicates good genetics, diet, daily routine and general health of the body.

    But some high-level athletes accept gh along with IGF-1 LR3, because "Even extreme doses can not disperse the production of IGF above 400".

    I can refer to the scientific research of Pfizer, which has already been sent before. They say that "Lower the dosage of gh, if IGF-1 is higher than the age norm." But no study suggests a direct relationship "1IU = 100 or 50 IGF". Ie with the same dosage, for example 3.3IU - one patient will increase his IGF-1 well beyond the age limit, but in another patient the IGF level will be in the range of the age norm.


    Even in an interesting article that you sent - say:

    1) gh affects the IGF. Is it proved? Yes.
    2) Has the dependence been proved? Yes.
    3) Is the dependence linear for each subject? No.

    Well, one more thing: At the weekend - eat a lot of fatty roasted meat, drink a little alcohol, drink sweet water with sugar, do not sleep until late. And on Monday - Tuesday, go to take the IGF test - And a surprise! It will be even below the norm, no matter how much gh you poured into yourself - at least 10IU at once. Because the liver will be occupied with other concerns, and will not work out the IGF above the norm - it simply can not do it. But despite this, GH will act, gh has its own receptors and forms of action-and IGF is just one aspect of its action.

    I hope now my phrase is a little clearer.
    Common sense should tell you, if you are taking your shot every morning and the day of the bloods are taking your GH should be at its highest peak because bloods are drawn 1 or 2 hours from morning injection at least when my bloods get drawn that is

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  • boricuarage79
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    You shouldn't be drinking alchohol or eating like crap on a cycle period! This statement is a little invalid
    Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk

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  • Bouncer
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    Originally posted by SelectHGH View Post
    Apparently my knowledge of English again brought me a little. But, I caused a strong discussion). Look at the idea:

    1) In normal mode (without the use of injections gh), each person has his own level of IGF-1. It depends on many facts - the amount of production is regulated by hormones and the general state of the body.

    2) Why are two people of the same age, with approximately the same level of their own gh, the absolutely different values of IGF-1? Firstly, this is the condition of the liver. If the liver suffers from AAS, fatty foods, alcohol, liver disease (for example, cirrhosis) - it produces significantly less IGF.

    But when external gh is taken, one more factor is added to these factors - to take into account the resistance of the organism. For example, Chadd - guy is fucking lucky with genetics. He can raise his IGF-1 +100 from each IU. This indicates good genetics, diet, daily routine and general health of the body.

    But some high-level athletes accept gh along with IGF-1 LR3, because "Even extreme doses can not disperse the production of IGF above 400".

    I can refer to the scientific research of Pfizer, which has already been sent before. They say that "Lower the dosage of gh, if IGF-1 is higher than the age norm." But no study suggests a direct relationship "1IU = 100 or 50 IGF". Ie with the same dosage, for example 3.3IU - one patient will increase his IGF-1 well beyond the age limit, but in another patient the IGF level will be in the range of the age norm.


    Even in an interesting article that you sent - say:

    1) gh affects the IGF. Is it proved? Yes.
    2) Has the dependence been proved? Yes.
    3) Is the dependence linear for each subject? No.

    Well, one more thing: At the weekend - eat a lot of fatty roasted meat, drink a little alcohol, drink sweet water with sugar, do not sleep until late. And on Monday - Tuesday, go to take the IGF test - And a surprise! It will be even below the norm, no matter how much gh you poured into yourself - at least 10IU at once. Because the liver will be occupied with other concerns, and will not work out the IGF above the norm - it simply can not do it. But despite this, GH will act, gh has its own receptors and forms of action-and IGF is just one aspect of its action.

    I hope now my phrase is a little clearer.
    When people are using 5iu of GH daily and their gh serum and igf levels are not even elevated the GH is no good. It's as simple as that. People have different levels of igf you are correct. But 5iu of GH daily should put anyone well above normal.

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  • SelectHGH
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    Originally posted by Bouncer View Post
    Your now saying GH should not raise IGF levels? Bro come on.

    You want science? Here ya go.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2439518/

    Apparently my knowledge of English again brought me a little. But, I caused a strong discussion). Look at the idea:

    1) In normal mode (without the use of injections gh), each person has his own level of IGF-1. It depends on many facts - the amount of production is regulated by hormones and the general state of the body.

    2) Why are two people of the same age, with approximately the same level of their own gh, the absolutely different values ​​of IGF-1? Firstly, this is the condition of the liver. If the liver suffers from AAS, fatty foods, alcohol, liver disease (for example, cirrhosis) - it produces significantly less IGF.

    But when external gh is taken, one more factor is added to these factors - to take into account the resistance of the organism. For example, Chadd - guy is fucking lucky with genetics. He can raise his IGF-1 +100 from each IU. This indicates good genetics, diet, daily routine and general health of the body.

    But some high-level athletes accept gh along with IGF-1 LR3, because "Even extreme doses can not disperse the production of IGF above 400".

    I can refer to the scientific research of Pfizer, which has already been sent before. They say that "Lower the dosage of gh, if IGF-1 is higher than the age norm." But no study suggests a direct relationship "1IU = 100 or 50 IGF". Ie with the same dosage, for example 3.3IU - one patient will increase his IGF-1 well beyond the age limit, but in another patient the IGF level will be in the range of the age norm.


    Even in an interesting article that you sent - say:

    1) gh affects the IGF. Is it proved? Yes.
    2) Has the dependence been proved? Yes.
    3) Is the dependence linear for each subject? No.

    Well, one more thing: At the weekend - eat a lot of fatty roasted meat, drink a little alcohol, drink sweet water with sugar, do not sleep until late. And on Monday - Tuesday, go to take the IGF test - And a surprise! It will be even below the norm, no matter how much gh you poured into yourself - at least 10IU at once. Because the liver will be occupied with other concerns, and will not work out the IGF above the norm - it simply can not do it. But despite this, GH will act, gh has its own receptors and forms of action-and IGF is just one aspect of its action.

    I hope now my phrase is a little clearer.

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  • Bouncer
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    Originally posted by boricuarage79 View Post
    So why a source that sells GH would make such a comment.. I'm lost

    Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk
    Exactly. Me too.

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  • boricuarage79
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    Originally posted by Bouncer View Post
    Yes, for the most part in terms of bodybuilding needs. That's why it's so ridiculous to imply otherwise.
    So why a source that sells GH would make such a comment.. I'm lost

    Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk

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  • Bouncer
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    Originally posted by boricuarage79 View Post
    Isn't that why we take GH? To increase IGF levels?

    Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk
    Yes, for the most part in terms of bodybuilding needs. That's why it's so ridiculous to imply otherwise.

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  • boricuarage79
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    Originally posted by Bouncer View Post
    Your now saying GH should not raise IGF levels? Bro come on.

    You want science? Here ya go.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2439518/

    Isn't that why we take GH? To increase IGF levels?

    Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk

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  • Chadd77
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    lol can't wait until rocket see this. You know he will be typing like this:

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  • Bouncer
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    Originally posted by SelectHGH View Post
    Preferably 8-10 hours after the injection.

    By the way, on one of the forums I got acquainted with pro athletes, and it turned out that the knowledge of many at a super high level. And that's why I want to ask you - give me at least one scientific reference (the official instruction of medicines, independent tests in laboratories, scientific research) that tell you how and how gh should change the level of IGF. It will be very interesting.
    Your now saying GH should not raise IGF levels? Bro come on.

    You want science? Here ya go.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2439518/

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