NPP increase IGF1

[boricuarage79]

You should see a significant rise in insulin-like-growth factor (IGF-1) when on nandrolone phenylpropionate. Research backs this up by showing that nandrolone increases IGF-1 mRNA expression levels in animals (6). And this is important because IGF-1 is a hormone that's key to packing on more lean muscle. Combining this with the nitrogen-boosting effect of NPP, you can really see how this drug has such a strong effect on muscle growth.

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[boricuarage79]

I can only imagine NPP combined with Tren ACE... a godsend!!
Caber Up like a mofo

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[Bouncer]

its saying nandrolone not NPP specifically. so deca would be included in that as well.

thing is though... by how much is the question? people have posted blood work on deca or tren with normal igf levels so its important not to take this out of context. its not going to raise igf levels even remotely close to what GH can do.

[boricuarage79]

It's specifically saying nandrolone phenylpropionate. Deca does the same obviously since it's a 19 Nor as well...

Tren increases IGF as well, maybe @ a faster rate than Nadrolone, but I like to think of it as a cleaner version of tren...

Obviously is not going to.increase it as high as GH, but it still does increase IGF...

Maybe I can do an IGF test and see how high it is, but I don't know if I can do that from my house Doc

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[boricuarage79]

But then again, fuck all those test.. I go by how I look and feel... week.2 I should start getting really nice results

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[Bouncer]

It's specifically saying nandrolone phenylpropionate. Deca does the same obviously since it's a 19 Nor as well...

Tren increases IGF as well, maybe @ a faster rate than Nadrolone, but I like to think of it as a cleaner version of tren...

Obviously is not going to.increase it as high as GH, but it still does increase IGF...

Maybe I can do an IGF test and see how high it is, but I don't know if I can do that from my house Doc

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Rado and rocket have posted blood work on tren. Their igf was completely normal. So to say "tren increases igf" is not exactly factual. It could be true in some cases but it's not proven science by any means.

[boricuarage79]

Rado and rocket have posted blood work on tren. Their igf was completely normal. So to say "tren increases igf" is not exactly factual. It could be true in some cases but it's not proven science by any means.

Well see the thing is Tren can give you that look like no other compound... Hard/ recomp look even if your diet is slightly shit... well from what people have experience anyhow..
I just notice when on Tren I feel slightly hypo and from what I read it's the compound sucking up all the carbs and you need more carbs to feel stable... Yes it's not.like insulin, but it's such a unique compound that IGF must have a roll in..
It's would be a great combo with Tren/NPP, maybe I will throw in a low dose in the future...
Short esters would be wise if sides get out of control

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[Bouncer]

Well see the thing is Tren can give you that look like no other compound... Hard/ recomp look even if your diet is slightly shit... well from what people have experience anyhow..
I just notice when on Tren I feel slightly hypo and from what I read it's the compound sucking up all the carbs and you need more carbs to feel stable... Yes it's not.like insulin, but it's such a unique compound that IGF must have a roll in..
It's would be a great combo with Tren/NPP, maybe I will throw in a low dose in the future...
Short esters would be wise if sides get out of control

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I think it's benefits come from the fact that it's such a strong androgen. Something like 7 times stronger then test. I really don't believe it effects igf very much and if it does it nothing crazy like 200-300 points. If it has any effect at all it's going to be like 50 points at most which honestly is nothing in terms of results.

[Androman]

Here is a study on Nandrolone and its effects on IGF https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/10642358/


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[Androman]

The only thing is this study was done on rats


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[Androman]

Even testosterone can increase IGF1 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/7690364/


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[Bouncer]

Even testosterone can increase IGF1 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/7690364/


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Yea but in real world igf blood work that increase equates to like 10 points which is nothing. We need hundreds of points increase like GH provides to see a real benefit.

[Androman]

NPP increase IGF1

Yea but in real world igf blood work that increase equates to like 10 points which is nothing. We need hundreds of points increase like GH provides to see a real benefit.

that's exactly what I was going to say, AAS do increase igf however it's very minuscule. Quality HGH & camel town IGF is what you want.


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[Bouncer]

that's exactly what I was going to say, AAS do increase igf however it's very minuscule. Quality HGH & camel town IGF is what you want.


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Yup. You can make great gains on test or tren, or nandrolone. But it's not going to be because of an igf increase.

[boricuarage79]

Penis pumper Increases IGF

That's what Lip told me

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