HGH Labz ANSOMONE log/igf results

[boricuarage79]

First of all I shoot sub q for GH, I told you this. I've heard people also do IM, I do sub q.

Now I've had my baseline before smoking and it's in the 120 ranges as well.

Your post means nothing because it's not accurate.

Not sure why you find it necessary to still wanting to bicker about it. You obviously don't know my lab history for the past 15yrs I've had them done.

Regardless, the GH I've been getting is just bunk, period.


When I first began testing these kits, alphatrops gave me slightly elevated igf at only 2ius ED, and those were cheap, but underdosed.

First of all I was trying to help you out and figuring it out and I read articles that THC can blunt GH/IGF effects because I smoke myself and wanted to know how much it can affected by....

Second of all I asked you in the beginning of your thread and you said you did IM shot for the lab work or did you misunderstood me?...

And third of all everyone here has there theories, but you seem to get on my case now..... Well fuck you very much.. I know my shit is real so I'm good...

Good luck

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[rado]

Why are you guys dismissing my link? Rado smokes... I don't know if he does every day, but THC can affect IGF as well... every research I look at it says it impacts IGF...

Who gives a shit what everybody ran fake this or real that.. It's about his scores and what can be done to fix it....

If the western pharma comes out shit... Then it's the THC then.. that's my theroy...

I already asked Rado if he was running Adex during his cycle cause it impacts IGF. I asked if he was doing IM when he took the test cause.. He said IM, but then he said he does Sub q... So which one is it?...

Anyways I'm done with this post.. I helped enough

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First of all I shoot sub q for GH, I told you this. I've heard people also do IM, I do sub q.

Now I've had my baseline before smoking and it's in the 120 ranges as well.

Your post means nothing because it's not accurate.

Not sure why you find it necessary to still wanting to bicker about it. You obviously don't know my lab history for the past 15yrs I've had them done.

Regardless, the GH I've been getting is just bunk, period.


When I first began testing these kits, alphatrops gave me slightly elevated igf at only 2ius ED, and those were cheap, but underdosed.

[boricuarage79]

Yes it impacts GH users and normal IGF...
I will post link when I have the time

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[Bouncer]

Why are you guys dismissing my link? Rado smokes... I don't know if he does every day, but THC can affect IGF as well... every research I look at it says it impacts IGF...

Who gives a shit what everybody ran fake this or real that.. It's about his scores and what can be done to fix it....

If the western pharma comes out shit... Then it's the THC then.. that's my theroy...

I already asked Rado if he was running Adex during his cycle cause it impacts IGF. I asked if he was doing IM when he took the test cause.. He said IM, but then he said he does Sub q... So which one is it?...

Anyways I'm done with this post.. I helped enough

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By how much does it impact igf and does it have an impact on someone injecting Gh. That's the problem, we simply don't have those answers. It may just be that thc effects normal people's igf and GH levels but not an actual GH user injecting the hormone directly.

[boricuarage79]

Why are you guys dismissing my link? Rado smokes... I don't know if he does every day, but THC can affect IGF as well... every research I look at it says it impacts IGF...

Who gives a shit what everybody ran fake this or real that.. It's about his scores and what can be done to fix it....

If the western pharma comes out shit... Then it's the THC then.. that's my theroy...

I already asked Rado if he was running Adex during his cycle cause it impacts IGF. I asked if he was doing IM when he took the test cause.. He said IM, but then he said he does Sub q... So which one is it?...

Anyways I'm done with this post.. I helped enough

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[Bouncer]

traps, post the thread with your blood work. i forget which thread it was. tell us exactly what you were running AAS and ancillary wise. also list any meds you run.

[ROCKETS REVENGE]

once again you skip over the real issue that traps may really have a issue and just worried about your sensitive ego. lol
I dont know enough about this shit but I know enough that 350s is wu high for nothing and something is causing it. if he really dont know he should find out fast.
wheres the thread? if its private no big deal but if its not what one is it I want to se his other numbers.

[ROCKETS REVENGE]

Once again you take a small piece of a post and blow it completely out of context and meaning. You know damn well I'm very aware of genetics, diet, and training. You know damn well that I'm very aware that there are other factors involved besides just IGF.

My point was that with all the fucken controversy and all the trouble we go through to jack our igf levels up, at the end of the day AAS are much less hassle and a much better bang for the buck anyway. I was simply listing very basic reasons why I'm going the AAS only route for awhile.

no you flat out compared traps to Rado saying he looked like shit so IGF is pretty much useless. your post not mine.

but yes GH is nothing compared to gear not even close. I dont even now why half the people that use it use it. it would take mega doses to get real growth or years and years of consistent use to get some growth.
its good for old people over 35 and better yet 40. it will do nothing for you even if you were on a year straight. not the doses we take at least. you might gain 2-3 lbs. it would be solid muscle that never goes away but 2-3lbs isn't much for a young person who can make real gains still.

[Bouncer]

it sure as fuck didn't help either of you in the brains department I am meaning to be a dick.
genetics will be the number 1 factor. then a million other things you act like all the haters who tell me I am only big cuz I take steroids lol yea and the 20 years of weights had nothing to do with it.

maybe traps dont have good genetics maybe he just started lifting maybe he lifts for a sport not looks who knows maybe Rado been doing this 20 years. your logic is fucking retarded

Once again you take a small piece of a post and blow it completely out of context and meaning. You know damn well I'm very aware of genetics, diet, and training. You know damn well that I'm very aware that there are other factors involved besides just IGF.

My point was that with all the fucken controversy and all the trouble we go through to jack our igf levels up, at the end of the day AAS are much less hassle and a much better bang for the buck anyway. I was simply listing very basic reasons why I'm going the AAS only route for awhile.

[ROCKETS REVENGE]

Adex does not dramatically effect IGF either I have been on and off it many times while testing IGF always consistent.
traps scored 350 what is he taking what tread is that in. have you looked at his glucose and other levels? he might have a hyper pituitary if he really is on nothing at all and the test is real 350s I would def look into that more.

you know there are midgets with low or no IGF and there are giants with high IGF big abnormal heads just weird shit. I dont want either thats is no joke he should really look into that.

theres a million things that could explain it from a messed up test to him having a light medical issue id def recheck that and look into that more.

[ROCKETS REVENGE]

high igf levels clearly dont always = great results. sorry to be a dick but compare traps and rado. traps has like 3 times the igf levels of rado yet rado murders him in the physique department.
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it sure as fuck didn't help either of you in the brains department I am meaning to be a dick.
genetics will be the number 1 factor. then a million other things you act like all the haters who tell me I am only big cuz I take steroids lol yea and the 20 years of weights had nothing to do with it.

maybe traps dont have good genetics maybe he just started lifting maybe he lifts for a sport not looks who knows maybe Rado been doing this 20 years. your logic is fucking retarded

[Bouncer]

Damn I think I'm younger than traps I wonder what mine would be. I did run hygetropin before and greytops but they were probably fake. If not then they probably suppressed it


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i am personally starting to believe it simply depends. it depends on if your running adex which has been shown to lower igf in studies. it depends on if you are running an anti prolactin which has been shown to boost gh by something crazy like 300% in actual studies. it depends on which aas your running and what dose. it depends on ones body chemistry. etc...

high igf levels clearly dont always = great results. sorry to be a dick but compare traps and rado. traps has like 3 times the igf levels of rado yet rado murders him in the physique department.

all this back and forth and uncertainty has left a bad taste. im sticking with AAS only at least for awhile.

[Androman]

Damn I think I'm younger than traps I wonder what mine would be. I did run hygetropin before and greytops but they were probably fake. If not then they probably suppressed it


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[boricuarage79]

Bingo...

So to my understanding and reading other articles THC blunts GH release...
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8390853

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[Bouncer]

Yes my point is traps is still young so his IGF levels will be higher than an older person like us...

I don't know why Rados score low...



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I hear your point and that's why I always argued when someone would bring up testosterone as a comparison.

If a 65 year old is running a gram a week of test he is going to have test levels WAY higher than a natty 18 year old.

This is why I say igf just isn't as clear cut as something like test. I think there is a lot we still don't understand.