PCT help

[DecaDaVe]

Hey guy....quick question....if this is my cycle, when and what dosages do u recommend i take using nolavdex and HCG?

Week 1-6 Dianabol, 15-20-25-30-35-40mg/day
Week 1-6 Deca, 200mg/w
Week 7-12 Deca, 400-400-400-200-200-200mg/w
Week 7-12 Test Enanthate, 500mg/w

[GearTripper]

are you dead-set on that cycle? i would change it up to look like:

Week 1-4 Dianabol, 30-40mg/day
Week 1-12 Test Enanthate, 400mg/w
Week 1-12 Deca, 300mg/w

forget about the tapering... not worth it IMO. i've done it three times before and have noticed better results when i don't. run test throughout. i lowered the doses because i think it's your first cycle right? you could really even get rid of the Deca alltogether and grow... even the dbol.

[GearTripper]

i guess i didn't answer your question at all did i :)

anyways, for the cycle you mentioned i'd do the typical Clomid cycle 300,100,50 breakdown as your PCT. i'm currently running HCG 300 iu's every three days throughout my 12 weeker right now. have nolvadex on hand just in case of gyno.

[LARGELI]

Originally posted by GearTripper
are you dead-set on that cycle? i would change it up to look like:

Week 1-4 Dianabol, 30-40mg/day
Week 1-12 Test Enanthate, 400mg/w
Week 1-12 Deca, 300mg/w

forget about the tapering... not worth it IMO. i've done it three times before and have noticed better results when i don't. run test throughout. i lowered the doses because i think it's your first cycle right? you could really even get rid of the Deca alltogether and grow... even the dbol.

ive never been a big fan of tapering either and i would definitely run the test the whole cycle.

[DecaDaVe]

Thanx guys...im not dead set on it, it was just what i was tihnkin, but if you think it will work better like that then maybe thats how i will run it....soo u think clomid would be better by itself then nolavdex and hcg?

[muscledoc]

The HCG should be started 2-3 weeks after your last injection due to retentionin the system. Youcan do Clomid before that and then run the two together for a while.

[GearTripper]

Originally posted by muscledoc
The HCG should be started 2-3 weeks after your last injection due to retentionin the system. Youcan do Clomid before that and then run the two together for a while.

i've been under the impression that HCG therapy should ceist 5 days prior to the Clomid therapy? all my previous cycles have been run like this.

[muscledoc]

It is possible. The clomid is an anti-estrogen (site blocker) and the HCG stimulates test production so I dont see why they cant co-exist. I'll look into it.

I haved a call into some colleagues. I'll let you know

[muscledoc]

Ok here's the deal. Colomid and HCG can be run together. Gold standrd is to start HCG immediately after cycle. 2weeks later Clomid 300mg day1, 100mg next 10 days then 50 mg. Novaldex can also be added to the mix.

[gilly6993]

the standard PCT is 300 mg day 1, 100 mg days 2-11, 50 mg days 12-21......the day you start clomid is dependant on what drugs you're using......

Anadrol/Anapolan: 8 - 12 hours after last administration
Deca: 3 weeks after last injection and clomid for 4 weeks
Dianabol: 4 – 8 hours after last administration
Equipoise: 17 – 21 days after last injection
Fina: 3 days after last injection
Primobolan depot: 10 – 14 days after last injection
Sustanon: 3 weeks after last injection
Testosterone Cypionate: 2 weeks after last injection
Testosterone Enanthate: 2 weeks after last injection
Testosterone Propionate: 3 days after last injection
Testosterone Suspension: 4 – 8 hours after last administration
Winstrol: 8 – 12 hours after last administration

this is obviously open for much debate as many people have modified the regimen to fit their needs.....

[muscledoc]

Thanks Gilly. That clears up some of the clomid controversy. Could you read my post on the anabolic board and respond to that question? Thanks

[LARGELI]

gilly you do know that most of the time tables you gave are the half lives of those drugs right? most of those AAS are still active in your system after their half lives.

[gilly6993]

Originally posted by LARGELI
gilly you do know that most of the time tables you gave are the half lives of those drugs right? most of those AAS are still active in your system after their half lives.

correct.....that's when you want to start your PCT though.......if you waited until they were completely out you'de be waiting way to long.....

[DiamondCutCows]

Originally posted by gilly6993
correct.....that's when you want to start your PCT though.......if you waited until they were completely out you'de be waiting way to long.....

This matches the majority of what I've read over the last 2 1/2 years. I agree