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  • #91
    Pinned IGF and prop yesterday... chest workout and a lil cardio....

    Have no weigh myself in a few days. Last time I checked I was 174. Couple pounds more than couple weeks ago.

    Getting leaner by the day with my new diet.

    Haven't had a cheat meal in few weeks

    No gym.today..

    The allergies from Pollen is kicking my ass

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    • #92
      Originally posted by Bouncer View Post
      So your asking about lr3 right. It's junk imo. Not trying to always be negative bro but when it comes to peptides I always come away disappointed. Maybe I'm just expecting steroid like results.
      Well they are not steroids so I don't know why you keep making this comparison. They are not meant to replace steroids. They are just another PED to add to the arsenal. You think all these guys using this stuff for shits and giggles? Lol. These pep sites are making millions, because the stuff WORKS.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by RamboStallone View Post
        Well they are not steroids so I don't know why you keep making this comparison. They are not meant to replace steroids. They are just another PED to add to the arsenal. You think all these guys using this stuff for shits and giggles? Lol. These pep sites are making millions, because the stuff WORKS.
        I'm comparing them as PEDs in general. Of all the PEDs available to bodybuilding, peptides are the least effective. That's all I'm saying.

        Supplement companies make millions off shit that hardly does a thing. The popularity of something is not an indicator of how well it works.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by Bouncer View Post
          I'm comparing them as PEDs in general. Of all the PEDs available to bodybuilding, peptides are the least effective. That's all I'm saying.

          Supplement companies make millions off shit that hardly does a thing. The popularity of something is not an indicator of how well it works.
          Least effective? They are just as effective as slin and gh. MK677 actually blows GH away in terms of actual results and muscle mass. Some guys are using ghrps instead of slin before meals for the hunger. These peps are in protocols by very popular coaches. Pro's are using this stuff. It is not least effective, peps are the best PEDs to be discovered in our time. What other PEDs have come out in our time that have been worth a shit? Other then peptides I can't think of any.

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          • #95
            Bouncer is just anti-peptide. Leave us alone man, let us run our peptides. We like them, stop pooping in our cereal!

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            • #96
              Originally posted by RamboStallone View Post
              Least effective? They are just as effective as slin and gh. MK677 actually blows GH away in terms of actual results and muscle mass. Some guys are using ghrps instead of slin before meals for the hunger. These peps are in protocols by very popular coaches. Pro's are using this stuff. It is not least effective, peps are the best PEDs to be discovered in our time. What other PEDs have come out in our time that have been worth a shit? Other then peptides I can't think of any.
              I disagree in your comparison with GH if you think long term. If we are talking short term I agree with you. GH is crap if we are talking about something like the first 3-4 months. You will hardly see a thing in terms of results. But 6 months and on is when GH starts to win the race IMO.

              Again, I'm not saying peptides are completely worthless. I'm just saying they don't live up to the hype IMO.

              You brought up pro's so lets think about that. We would all agree that bodybuilding's second golden age was the late 90's and early 00's right? Flex Wheeler, Levrone, Coleman, Nasser, Priest, Cutler, Shawn Ray, Markus Ruhl, and so many other greats.. Those guys were running AAS, GH, and slin. Peptides were nowhere to be found. Can you imagine coleman in his prime vs phil heath today. LMAO, heath would disappear next to coleman. Peptides has not improved bodybuilding IMO. Markus Ruhl at the 2002 NOC was the biggest freak that ever walked the stage. Made big rammy today look like a normal fella.

              No peptides required.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Bouncer View Post
                I disagree in your comparison with GH if you think long term. If we are talking short term I agree with you. GH is crap if we are talking about something like the first 3-4 months. You will hardly see a thing in terms of results. But 6 months and on is when GH starts to win the race IMO.

                Again, I'm not saying peptides are completely worthless. I'm just saying they don't live up to the hype IMO.
                I can agree there about the gh, but dose has to be 6iu plus for me to feel the GH is worth it and more effective. Under that they are neck to neck for me.

                Again it is individual so it's obvious to me you just don't react like I do which is why our opinions differ greatly in this regard.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by RamboStallone View Post
                  I can agree there about the gh, but dose has to be 6iu plus for me to feel the GH is worth it and more effective. Under that they are neck to neck for me.

                  Again it is individual so it's obvious to me you just don't react like I do which is why our opinions differ greatly in this regard.
                  Bro its pointless to debate with him. He is bias towards deca. So let it be...

                  If you read some of his older 2012 post he swore by peptides..

                  And be you can't say GH ain't worth it the first 3 months because I felt it in the first month. Now if I ran it 3 months plus then I would of really see the benefits.

                  But I'm not paying for the price when I can pay a fraction with GHRP2 or Hexarelin;)

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Bouncer View Post
                    I disagree in your comparison with GH if you think long term. If we are talking short term I agree with you. GH is crap if we are talking about something like the first 3-4 months. You will hardly see a thing in terms of results. But 6 months and on is when GH starts to win the race IMO.

                    Again, I'm not saying peptides are completely worthless. I'm just saying they don't live up to the hype IMO.

                    You brought up pro's so lets think about that. We would all agree that bodybuilding's second golden age was the late 90's and early 00's right? Flex Wheeler, Levrone, Coleman, Nasser, Priest, Cutler, Shawn Ray, Markus Ruhl, and so many other greats.. Those guys were running AAS, GH, and slin. Peptides were nowhere to be found. Can you imagine coleman in his prime vs phil heath today. LMAO, heath would disappear next to coleman. Peptides has not improved bodybuilding IMO. Markus Ruhl at the 2002 NOC was the biggest freak that ever walked the stage. Made big rammy today look like a normal fella.

                    No peptides required.

                    Ruhl was a genetic freak

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                    • just imagine the current Mr.O vs Coleman at his peak. it's hard to say bodybuilding has moved forward in the last 15 years don't you agree? the lineup 15 years ago was fucken insane.

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                      • Originally posted by Bouncer View Post
                        just imagine the current Mr.O vs Coleman at his peak. it's hard to say bodybuilding has moved forward in the last 15 years don't you agree? the lineup 15 years ago was fucken insane.
                        No one said they were NEEDED, especially for the genetic elite. Those guys grow on 1 dbol a day lol.

                        The debate was whether peps are effective or not. Real world data and studies prove they are. Yet you say they aren't, cuz Ruhl didn't use them? What kind of whack ass, lame argument is that? We use the latest technology why wouldn't we use the latest PEDs? Also, why would any REAL bodybuilder be against any PED? The more the merrier, if they come out with more shit, I'll be happy to use it. I try everything that I can get my hands on.

                        Again, what era bodybuilding you prefer has absolutely nothing to do with peps and if they are effective or not. Your blabbering nonsense at this point.

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                        • Originally posted by RamboStallone View Post
                          No one said they were NEEDED, especially for the genetic elite. Those guys grow on 1 dbol a day lol.

                          The debate was whether peps are effective or not. Real world data and studies prove they are. Yet you say they aren't, cuz Ruhl didn't use them? What kind of whack ass, lame argument is that? We use the latest technology why wouldn't we use the latest PEDs? Also, why would any REAL bodybuilder be against any PED? The more the merrier, if they come out with more shit, I'll be happy to use it. I try everything that I can get my hands on.

                          Again, what era bodybuilding you prefer has absolutely nothing to do with peps and if they are effective or not. Your blabbering nonsense at this point.
                          stfu. its a very basic and simple point. look at bodybuilding before the era of steroids and after. the difference is vast.

                          now look at bodybuilding before the era of peptides and after. there is no discernible difference whatsoever.

                          peptides serve a very very small role in bodybuilding. they absolutely do not live up to the hype. if the truth makes you angry tough shit..

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                          • Originally posted by Bouncer View Post
                            stfu. its a very basic and simple point. look at bodybuilding before the era of steroids and after. the difference is vast.

                            now look at bodybuilding before the era of peptides and after. there is no discernible difference whatsoever.

                            peptides serve a very very small role in bodybuilding. they absolutely do not live up to the hype. if the truth makes you angry tough shit..
                            You're the one getting angry lol cuz you made a dumbass argument. You look like a fool. Have a nice day.

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                            • Originally posted by RamboStallone View Post
                              You're the one getting angry lol cuz you made a dumbass argument. You look like a fool. Have a nice day.
                              yes i'm livid. lol gtfo. if you cant understand a basic point thats your problem. peptides have done very little for bodybuilding. thats a fact.

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                              • Originally posted by Bouncer View Post
                                stfu. its a very basic and simple point. look at bodybuilding before the era of steroids and after. the difference is vast.

                                now look at bodybuilding before the era of peptides and after. there is no discernible difference whatsoever.

                                peptides serve a very very small role in bodybuilding. they absolutely do not live up to the hype. if the truth makes you angry tough shit..
                                Tell my rep to shut the fuck up ever again. Pull my banner . This is out of control.

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