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They were sent for lab analysis. Black tops came back at i believe 15.75ius per vial.Originally posted by Chadd77 View PostHave you actually heard TP say that the blacks are 15iu? I know homer never said that but other re-sellers wold market it that way. They test very close. My first test I ran on the blacks came back at 596 on 4iu. My baseline is right around 200 so they came back at 99 points per iu. The greys I tested came back at 507 and I then lowered my dose to 3.33iu a day. So when you do the math they came back at 92 points per iu. They are very close. I don't buy into the 15iu at all. I will say the blacks make me retain a lot more water so I'm guessing they have a higher filler in them then the greys. Some like the water retention others don't.
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I get those sides from tren on day one, it's terrible. Can't run the stuff anymore.Originally posted by JJB1 View PostOne of the guys tested IGF1 while on hgh then he added tren and his IGF1 kept dropping. It was only around 150 which sucks. But even so obviously tren with hgh gets rid of fat faster than most anything.
I’ve decided i need a break from tren. I’ve got bad repetative thoughts lately and anxiety. I’ve been on it a few months which is too long really.
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Franky, you get pissed because you comes to a bodybuilding forum and we discuss physiques. Not my fault you don't have a physique worth talking about. But I don't call you chubby every chance I get, do I?Originally posted by FrankTheTank55 View PostSo what I like pop tarts! You like looking at half naked men, i dont call you a fag every chance i get do I?
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When it tests the same as what??? But like I said, it doesn't matter if there's 50ius per vial. If it's working and it's cheap who cares.Originally posted by Chadd77 View PostWhen it tests the same its the same.
You say it's 15iu because the amount of product. But it would be like getting a pop tart that has 15% more crust but not 15% more filling. Maybe you're getting a little bit more crust but you know you want more filling. I thought I'd try to explain it in terms you would understand. Hopefully this clears it up for you.
Dont get yourself all worked up all over again. And the popstar thing is super gay. So what I like pop tarts! You like looking at half naked men, i dont call you a fag every chance i get do I?
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Oh okay I get what you're saying..... Still wrong through....lol :)Originally posted by Chadd77 View PostWhen it tests the same its the same.
You say it's 15iu because the amount of product. But it would be like getting a pop tart that has 15% more crust but not 15% more filling. Maybe you're getting a little bit more crust but you know you want more filling. I thought I'd try to explain it in terms you would understand. Hopefully this clears it up for you.
You sure do love pop tarts.
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When it tests the same its the same.Originally posted by FrankTheTank55 View PostOkay we wont go through all this again...lol The only way to know exactly what's in them is mass specs. Your blood work doesn't tell that. There are so many variables involved. I mean you can look at the vials and see the puck is huge. Way bigger then most.
But either way it doesn't really matter.
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You say it's 15iu because the amount of product. But it would be like getting a pop tart that has 15% more crust but not 15% more filling. Maybe you're getting a little bit more crust but you know you want more filling. I thought I'd try to explain it in terms you would understand. Hopefully this clears it up for you.
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Okay we wont go through all this again...lol The only way to know exactly what's in them is mass specs. Your blood work doesn't tell that. There are so many variables involved. I mean you can look at the vials and see the puck is huge. Way bigger then most.Originally posted by Chadd77 View PostIf you reread what I just wrote I said they are not 15iu. Look at my blood work results. They prove they are not 15iu but it seems to be ised more for re-sellers to market the product.
But either way it doesn't really matter.
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If you reread what I just wrote I said they are not 15iu. Look at my blood work results. They prove they are not 15iu but it seems to be ised more for re-sellers to market the product.Originally posted by FrankTheTank55 View PostWhen I said Tren lowers IGF score and the black tops were 15ius Chadd damn near ripped my head off.....lol
It's okay Chad I forgive you, you dont need to say, "I'm sorry Frank, you were right all along" :)
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When I said Tren lowers IGF score and the black tops were 15ius Chadd damn near ripped my head off.....lol
It's okay Chad I forgive you, you dont need to say, "I'm sorry Frank, you were right all along" :)
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Have you actually heard TP say that the blacks are 15iu? I know homer never said that but other re-sellers wold market it that way. They test very close. My first test I ran on the blacks came back at 596 on 4iu. My baseline is right around 200 so they came back at 99 points per iu. The greys I tested came back at 507 and I then lowered my dose to 3.33iu a day. So when you do the math they came back at 92 points per iu. They are very close. I don't buy into the 15iu at all. I will say the blacks make me retain a lot more water so I'm guessing they have a higher filler in them then the greys. Some like the water retention others don't.Originally posted by JJB1 View PostDid you count the greys as 10ius and the blacks as 15ius?
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I've done tren for many many years and year long cycles....I finally gave it up last year, no particular reason either.Originally posted by JJB1 View PostOne of the guys tested IGF1 while on hgh then he added tren and his IGF1 kept dropping. It was only around 150 which sucks. But even so obviously tren with hgh gets rid of fat faster than most anything.
I’ve decided i need a break from tren. I’ve got bad repetative thoughts lately and anxiety. I’ve been on it a few months which is too long really.
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