Anyone done sub q injections with test?

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Revealed: Subcutaneous Testosterone Injections Offer More Favorable Effects -

From Intramuscular Testosterone to Subcutaneous Testosterone Injections

The most common types of testosterone injections are oil-based injectables administered to patients once or twice a week. Popular testosterone supplements, testosterone cypionate, propionate and enanthate have traditionally been injected through Intramuscular means as this was previously seen as the only possible method for providing patients with the testosterone esters. To administer these Intramuscular injections, patients are usually injected with needles measuring 1 inch to 1.5 inches, into the glute or hip, once a week.

However, recent studies have provided a different angle to this practice, saying that administration of these esters does not have to be limited to Intramuscular means. Over the years, there have been multiple studies exploring the possibility of other alternatives to Intramuscular administration. As a result, newer researches have debunked the common perception that Intramuscular administration is the only effective way to inject testosterone, strengthening the case for subcutaneous injections as a means of administering the esters. Additionally, physicians are also exploring the possibility that subcutaneous injections may address common problems encountered with Intramuscular administration of testosterone.

Subcutaneous injections and less testosterone fluctuations
A common problem encountered with intramuscularly administered testosterone esters is their tendency to cause fluctuating hormone levels.

Intramuscular injections are typically administered weekly. The patients testosterone levels peak in the first day and then are back to normal levels by day 6 or 7. If a physician is prescribing monthly or bi-monthly injections the trough the patient develops after a week while waiting for the next injection will send that patient on a roller coaster. As result, some patients experience a spike in their testosterone levels, where the testosterone serum in their system reaches high doses the following period after injections.

Testosterone Leveling
The peak from the injection comes to an end after several days. Once the hormones are metabolized, what is left is a gradual decrease of the testosterone in the system. Because of this, some patients experience a “peak and trough” fluctuation in hormone levels, resulting in uneven presence of testosterone.

Subcutaneous administration of testosterone serums are being explored as a possible remedy to this issue. A pilot study researching the effects of subcutaneous testosterone injections on hypogonadal males has shown that a smaller, more frequent dose of the serum levels showed peak and trough levels within the normal range for 100% of the patients.

As an alternative option that can replace Intramuscular injection’s weekly doses of the serum, a subcutaneous injection can be divided into two smaller doses each week. This practice levels the amount of testosterone serum in a patient, preventing large spikes and decreases experienced from intramuscular injection. This results in a more balanced and stable presence of the hormone in the patient.

Subcutaneous Testosterone Injections are Easier
Subcutaneous injections make testosterone administration more convenient for patients

Increased studies showing the viability of subcutaneous hormone administration bring many possibilities for patients going through testosterone treatments.

Aside from providing a more balanced testosterone concentration and more level peaks and troughs, subcutaneous injections are generally seen as more convenient for the patient. As an alternative to intramuscular injections, subcutaneous administration provides a cheap and less painful means of administering hormones.

Because of this, more providers, scientists and companies are exploring options that employ subcutaneously administered testosterone.

Hormone Therapeutics provides you the right method for you
As men age, testosterone concentration decline, causing many symptoms of low testosterone and unsatisfactory changes or difficulties in their lives. However, thanks to increasing medical advancements, these hormonal deficiencies and issues are no longer problems men have to bear on their own.

With the increasing amount of alternatives for testosterone treatment nowadays, it is not difficult for men to find a treatment method that they are comfortable with. As a variety of hormone treatments to supplement endocrine systems are now being made available, men can now choose to improve their quality of life through treatment methods that are best suited for them.

Here at Hormone Therapeutics, we want to help you find the best alternative for you so you can live better. Focused on making sure that each client gets a convenient and affordable solution to their needs, we provide testosterone injections, along with various endocrine treatments in order to improve quality of life. All our articles have been brought to you by SEO Advisors.

If you have any questions or inquiries regarding subcutaneous testosterone injections or other forms of testosterone or hormone therapy, Hormone Therapeutics will be glad to tell you more about our services and provide a physician evaluation of your options. Give us a call and we will help you learn more about testosterone and hormone therapy and find the best solution for you.

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[Androman]

Revealed: Subcutaneous Testosterone Injections Offer More Favorable Effects -

From Intramuscular Testosterone to Subcutaneous Testosterone Injections

The most common types of testosterone injections are oil-based injectables administered to patients once or twice a week. Popular testosterone supplements, testosterone cypionate, propionate and enanthate have traditionally been injected through Intramuscular means as this was previously seen as the only possible method for providing patients with the testosterone esters. To administer these Intramuscular injections, patients are usually injected with needles measuring 1 inch to 1.5 inches, into the glute or hip, once a week.

However, recent studies have provided a different angle to this practice, saying that administration of these esters does not have to be limited to Intramuscular means. Over the years, there have been multiple studies exploring the possibility of other alternatives to Intramuscular administration. As a result, newer researches have debunked the common perception that Intramuscular administration is the only effective way to inject testosterone, strengthening the case for subcutaneous injections as a means of administering the esters. Additionally, physicians are also exploring the possibility that subcutaneous injections may address common problems encountered with Intramuscular administration of testosterone.

Subcutaneous injections and less testosterone fluctuations
A common problem encountered with intramuscularly administered testosterone esters is their tendency to cause fluctuating hormone levels.

Intramuscular injections are typically administered weekly. The patients testosterone levels peak in the first day and then are back to normal levels by day 6 or 7. If a physician is prescribing monthly or bi-monthly injections the trough the patient develops after a week while waiting for the next injection will send that patient on a roller coaster. As result, some patients experience a spike in their testosterone levels, where the testosterone serum in their system reaches high doses the following period after injections.

Testosterone Leveling
The peak from the injection comes to an end after several days. Once the hormones are metabolized, what is left is a gradual decrease of the testosterone in the system. Because of this, some patients experience a “peak and trough” fluctuation in hormone levels, resulting in uneven presence of testosterone.

Subcutaneous administration of testosterone serums are being explored as a possible remedy to this issue. A pilot study researching the effects of subcutaneous testosterone injections on hypogonadal males has shown that a smaller, more frequent dose of the serum levels showed peak and trough levels within the normal range for 100% of the patients.

As an alternative option that can replace Intramuscular injection’s weekly doses of the serum, a subcutaneous injection can be divided into two smaller doses each week. This practice levels the amount of testosterone serum in a patient, preventing large spikes and decreases experienced from intramuscular injection. This results in a more balanced and stable presence of the hormone in the patient.

Subcutaneous Testosterone Injections are Easier
Subcutaneous injections make testosterone administration more convenient for patients

Increased studies showing the viability of subcutaneous hormone administration bring many possibilities for patients going through testosterone treatments.

Aside from providing a more balanced testosterone concentration and more level peaks and troughs, subcutaneous injections are generally seen as more convenient for the patient. As an alternative to intramuscular injections, subcutaneous administration provides a cheap and less painful means of administering hormones.

Because of this, more providers, scientists and companies are exploring options that employ subcutaneously administered testosterone.

Hormone Therapeutics provides you the right method for you
As men age, testosterone concentration decline, causing many symptoms of low testosterone and unsatisfactory changes or difficulties in their lives. However, thanks to increasing medical advancements, these hormonal deficiencies and issues are no longer problems men have to bear on their own.

With the increasing amount of alternatives for testosterone treatment nowadays, it is not difficult for men to find a treatment method that they are comfortable with. As a variety of hormone treatments to supplement endocrine systems are now being made available, men can now choose to improve their quality of life through treatment methods that are best suited for them.

Here at Hormone Therapeutics, we want to help you find the best alternative for you so you can live better. Focused on making sure that each client gets a convenient and affordable solution to their needs, we provide testosterone injections, along with various endocrine treatments in order to improve quality of life. All our articles have been brought to you by SEO Advisors.

If you have any questions or inquiries regarding subcutaneous testosterone injections or other forms of testosterone or hormone therapy, Hormone Therapeutics will be glad to tell you more about our services and provide a physician evaluation of your options. Give us a call and we will help you learn more about testosterone and hormone therapy and find the best solution for you.

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[Androman]

You get 20 percent more results and less aromatization study shows.

https://www.t-nation.com/pharma/get-...m-testosterone

Personally i do 120mg 2x a week for 240mg total. Ive gone as high as 200mg 2x a week without any issue. Thats 1cc per shot. If you want to run a higher dose of test stick to IM. 2.5CCs and up

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You get 20 percent more results and less aromatization study shows.

https://www.t-nation.com/pharma/get-...m-testosterone

Personally i do 120mg 2x a week for 240mg total. Ive gone as high as 200mg 2x a week without any issue. Thats 1cc per shot. If you want to run a higher dose of test stick to IM. 2.5CCs and up

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So why does it only work with low doses?

[Androman]

So why does it only work with low doses?

It doesnt only work for low dosages.

Its the amount of volume youd have to inject in such a little area.

Ive done 200mg (1ML) 2x a week thru a 31g insulin pin. (Keep in mind this is scripted testosterone so the oil is pretty thick) There were no lumps or bumps big enough to complain about but what about 250mg or 300mg per ml? Im sure the area will be irritated and i wouldnt inject more than 1ML at a time.

So for the amount of oil, Id stick to IM. But if you can deal with it, then by all means go for it. Personally SUBQ is superior to IM, in my humble opinion.

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It doesnt only work for low dosages.

Its the amount of volume youd have to inject in such a little area.

Ive done 200mg (1ML) 2x a week thru a 31g insulin pin. (Keep in mind this is scripted testosterone so the oil is pretty thick) There were no lumps or bumps big enough to complain about but what about 250mg or 300mg per ml? Im sure the area will be irritated and i wouldnt inject more than 1ML at a time.

So for the amount of oil, Id stick to IM. But if you can deal with it, then by all means go for it. Personally SUBQ is superior to IM, in my humble opinion.

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1ml (250mg) x 2 per week in two separate sub q shots is what im thinking

[Androman]

1ml (250mg) x 2 per week in two separate sub q shots is what im thinking

Try it for yourself & see what happens. Monitor your results. Its all an experiment, always is with steroids.

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[Chadd77]

Heard great things about it for trt doses but have never done it myself.

[Bouncer]

I don't know much about it so I'm not gonna pretend like i'm an expert but let me just lay out a few thoughts.

1. Pharma companies that manufacture oil based injectables always come with instructions that say "for IM injection only". they never say "can be injected IM or Sub-Q".

2. whenever you get an injection from the doctor whether you are a kid or an adult it's always IM unless it's some small water based injection.

3. beast tried this a few years ago with test. i believe it was half a cc. he had been using this test IM for months but decided to give the sub-Q thing a try based on an article I had posted. well.. things did not go well as you can see in this thread. https://www.superiormuscle.com/forum...one-injections

based on the things i've listed above i'll stick with IM.

[lipripper]

Can't see any real benefits to it really.
Article seems like a sale pitch saying 2 a week sub q is Soo much easier and levels stay good....guess what levels stay perfect if you inject E5D IM..lol...

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[Propane77]

I'm a medic and lab tech. The FDA validation for testosterone is for IM. The recent study supports sub q. Pharma cannot change there labeling until an fda validation from the company is approved. And not all shots are IM tb/ ppd are sub q. Half the vaccine shots are IM and the other are sub q. Not saying anyone is wrong but just alittle knowledge. One other thing I have submitted FDA validations before and they take 2 years at minimum to approve. The study for sub Q was in 2017 so maybe 2020 they will release the approval

[Propane77]

Sub Q Injections VS IM For Testosterone

For most bodybuilders and patients of Hormone Replacement Therapy it was said from the medical community that the most effective form of using testosterone was through Intra Muscular injections. The issue with this is that repetitive IM injections will cause scar tissue over time as well as increase the chance of Piriformis syndrome:

PIRIFORMIS syndrome is an uncommon and often undiagnosed cause of buttock and leg pain. It may be caused by anatomic abnormalities of the piriformis muscle and the sciatic nerve resulting in irritation of the sciatic nerve by the piriformis muscle. Indeed, case reports of the syndrome secondary to anomalies of the piriformis muscle have been described.

Basically most people administer their injections in their glute muscle using a 1 inch or 1.5 inch needle. They often hit their piriformis muscle which will cause irritation of the sciatic nerve and give them symptoms of temporary sciatica, as well as cause lower back tightness. This is a problem if your goal is building muscle and your want to train legs. Having a tight piriformis will make squatting very difficult and cause your lower back to lock up very quick.

Another issue from IM injections is by using a larger needle the testosterone goes into the muscle very fast 3 seconds for IM shot vs 20-30 seconds from sub q shot. The slower the oil goes into the muscle the less chance for damage of the tissue.

A viable alternative..Sub Q with insulin needles

People would hear this an laugh and say it doesn’t work but looking at the article below their is now research showing that the patients using this type of injections had stable testosterone levels. Which means that sub q injections work just fine at absorbing testosterone into the bloodstream. More importantly since the needle is so small 29gauge compared to 23 or 25gauge there is less damage and less scar tissue.

Secondly you run a much lower chance of hitting a nerve or getting piriformis issues

Third- I believe and their is research coming out to support this that by injecteing sub q into the fat the testosterone is released more slowly than IM shots causing less of an initial hormonal spike which in turn causes less estrogen (less bloating)!

And last, its much easier and more convenient. Granted this is for lower injection amounts which would make sense to do more frequent injections at a lower dose.

Instead of using .3 or .5 cc twice a week as doctors advise for HRT which is about 140-200mg someone can do 20mg daily or 40 mg every other day. The insulin needle takes longer to fill up and longer to do the shot. By using a lower amount the process is easier and quicker. Not to mention more frequent injections will provide more stable blood levels and less estrogen conversion.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17143361

[Bouncer]

Instead of using .3 or .5 cc twice a week as doctors advise for HRT which is about 140-200mg someone can do 20mg daily or 40 mg every other day. The insulin needle takes longer to fill up and longer to do the shot. By using a lower amount the process is easier and quicker. Not to mention more frequent injections will provide more stable blood levels and less estrogen conversion.

i'd argue the lower dose every other day is not "easier or "quicker" in any way, shape or form. not sure how that article can come to that conclusion compared to 1 shot every 5 days etc..

[Jarhead]

My doc has me on a 100mg a week, she says IM, but when I get it from CVS it says sub Q. Guess I will do what the Doc says, and bring it up to her when I get my bloods pulled in August.