DEBATE: Nand Phynlprop (fast deca) vs. Deca for bulking?

[TooPowerful4u]

There are a lot of factors that go for each of them, im trying to decide which one i want to bulk with. Heres the arguement for each.

Nandrolone Phenylpropionate, NPP, Fast Deca:
Since the ester is lighter, faster acting, it is MG for MG stronger. Also since its fast acting it wont have as big an impact on HPTA shutdown, so you dont get shut down as hard.

Nandrolone Deconate, Deca:
It is long acting, so it isnt as strong mg for mg, but it does bring more water retention with it. More bloat and water means better joint support and lubrication, more strength, and just more overall bodyweight. Also need less product mg for mg than NPP.

What are your thoughts?

[bigdrake]

Re: DEBATE: Nand Phynlprop (fast deca) vs. Deca for bulking?

Originally posted by TooPowerful4u
There are a lot of factors that go for each of them, im trying to decide which one i want to bulk with. Heres the arguement for each.

Nandrolone Phenylpropionate, NPP, Fast Deca:
Since the ester is lighter, faster acting, it is MG for MG stronger. Also since its fast acting it wont have as big an impact on HPTA shutdown, so you dont get shut down as hard.

Nandrolone Deconate, Deca:
It is long acting, so it isnt as strong mg for mg, but it does bring more water retention with it. More bloat and water means better joint support and lubrication, more strength, and just more overall bodyweight. Also need less product mg for mg than NPP.

What are your thoughts?

This make no since to me. Deca is deca, doesn't matter what ester is attached, you will still get the same side effects. I would think a faster acting ester would have a greater impact on your hpta since it's entering your system quicker.

[hitmansb]

NPP is by far the better drug....the only negative when compared to traditional Deca is cost....it's more expensive to run. Well, if you hate injects, I suppose having to shoot EOD might be a negative too...but that's an individual thing. Best NPP out there right now is Dubol, made by BM Pharmaceuticals (India). The 2ml bottles with the blue tops....they're top-notch.

[GreenDragon]

I disagree with the above statment...only because lets take a look at another fairly new drug/ph or whatever you choose to call it, 1 test. 1 test vs 1 test cyp vs 1 methyl1 test...they all act differently and give you different results/side effects. I cannot explain this on a chemical level because I am no chemist. However it appears that in some way , maybe not with all drugs the attached ester can alter the outcome.

peace

green

[Doom]

Its Nandrolone, in either case.
Yielding various release times, yet yielding simliar results, all it is, is a difference in the ester is sitting on, how fast you want it to kick into the body is the choice you want too make, quick, phenylprop with E3D injects, or deconate, where 5-7 days is more than fine

[droid]

What is a good dose for NPP?


DROID

[Stonecold54]

I will be making my own NPP at some point. that way the cost is not a factor. :D I like faster acting compounds overall. Prop, tren, NPP.

[droid]

Originally posted by stonecold54
I will be making my own NPP at some point. that way the cost is not a factor. :D I like faster acting compounds overall. Prop, tren, NPP.

I said dose not COST!!!!!!!!!!!!LOL



DROID

[Stonecold54]

Originally posted by droid
I said dose not COST!!!!!!!!!!!!LOL



DROID

I was talking about an earlier post. LOL :D

[JuicedBeachBum]

I like longer acting gear for bulking. It gives that higher peak blood plasma level and more water retention. NPP is good for chicks, maybe cutting, but I haven't used it yet.

I think they'll both shut you down so be prepared to run HCG before you start clomid.

[hitmansb]

Dose could be anywhere from 100mg EOD to 200mg EOD. Depends on the individual...some people respond to lower doses.

[Stonecold54]

I would take it for the reason that I could act faster on the side effects if I had some.

[spidey]

I will be running some fast acting deca soon. I am still in the process of making some of the other AS I plan to use.

Greendragon - there is a difference between esterified drug and non-esterified drug. To use your example 1-test cyp vs. 1-test. The esterified drug will be more anabolic and more androgenic due to the extended slow release of drug into the system. Non-esterified drug has too short of a half-life and the majority is excreted before it can exert it's influence. methyl-1-test is not directly comparable as it is a totally different drug than 1-test with different properties (think dbol vs. boldenone base).

Once you have the ester on there, it doesn't matter which one it is.