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  • #31
    bottom line is there is not one post of us bashing his products...anywhere. that is the difference between good and bad business ethics. we should not need to defend ours though either. We certainly should not get pm'ed threats about editing our posts either...


    looks like bass sees your pattern now also.... soon, everybody will. i promise!

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    • #32
      b12-

      please list the chemicals that are in any one of our products.....

      calling you out again....

      chem...

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      • #33
        Simple solution: send a sample from both parties to Industrial Labs out of Colorado. Have them first confirm the identity of the active ingredient and then HPLC for concentration. Split the cost.

        If needed they will also test for components of the matrix to settle the actual recipe issue.

        Chemo

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        • #34
          fine....

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          • #35
            This was posted by Chemo at AnabolicMinds.....

            Since the fiasco with ** some time ago I have been in constant search of a reliable company that cares about the consumer and also has top knotch product quality. Gentlemen, I have found that company.

            Recently, they sent to me product samples and wanted my evaluation. I not only gave my opinion on consistency, taste, and presentation but also took the liberty to have them lab tested for label claim potency. It is my pleasure to announce that they have not only eliminated the battery acid taste associated with most liquid research products but the potency has been verified by TWO idependent laboratories.

            TASTE / CONSISTENCY
            Although they sent samples of their fruit punch, cinnamon, and also peppermint flavors none of them had a strong taste as such. I have to add here that they DID succeed in eliminating the common bitter taste associated with most others and is enough for me to switch to their products.

            The overall taste of each is "neutral" with a hint of flavor. To be honest, after a few days of their finasteride I actually started to enjoy the taste.

            The recipe used to make the products are obviously an oil based matrix. It did not leave an oily residue on the top of the mouth so my guess would be a lighter variety of oil but their attention to detail is astounding.

            The HPLC / FT-IR / MS analysis showed traces of preservative which did not hinder the taste one bit. IMO, this is evidence of a high quality, well engineered product for your research needs.


            LAB ANALYSIS
            Each product was analyzed by HPLC separation / FT-IR fingerprint of partition / and MS identification.

            NOLVA
            Label claimed 20 mg/mL and was found to be 20mg/mL +/- 1.2

            CLOMID
            Label claimed 50 mg/mL and was found to be 50 mg/mL +/- 1.2

            LETROZOLE
            Label claimed 2.5 mg/mL and was found to be 2.4 mg/mL +/- .14

            FINASTERIDE
            Label claimed 5 mg/mL and was found to be 5 mg/mL +/- 1.4

            LETROZOLE / FINASTERIDE COMBINATION
            Label claimed 2.5 mg/mL letro and 5 mg/mL finasteride and was not tested.


            CONCLUSION
            This company has a proven track record with customer service and has established its prowess in putting together a quality product. It is well designed and engineered with most of the considerations that I look for in a good line of products. I highly recommend these research products for your needs...

            Humbly Submitted,

            Chemo

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            • #36
              b12-

              please list the chemicals that are in any one of our products.....

              calling you out again....

              chem...

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              • #37
                lets do what chemo recommended. Lets split the cost and get our products tested. THis will ensure the ONLY difference will be taste. not anything else in effectivness...

                I am still waiting to hear:

                1. the ingredients in any of our chemicals.
                2. why you say you have the best chems on the market..

                Chem...

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                • #38
                  we can do that or maybe send them to a lab at NIST.....the National Institute of standards........I will see if NIST will do it for free......

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                  • #39
                    B12

                    You really need to learn when to shut the fuck up. you are being talked about in every forum. you think your products are so good and everything...better than Research Kits? I think not. your products taste like shit too.

                    You talk shit about other people on almost every BB board on the net, you say your products are so good, trying to gain consumers, when you really are losing them from the shit your talking.

                    Grow the fuck up man, you need to have a grasp of reality for once

                    ---If a mod/admin is reading this, sorry for my profane language/bashing. I'm getting really sick of this and needed to rant
                    Last edited by Bigjay; 12-21-03, 04:07 PM.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by hitmansb
                      Why don't you both send me your line of products to test during/after my next two cycles, and I'll post honest reviews:D

                      Just kidding...but please, keep the animosity level down here. Bashing each other's product will only cause people to doubt them both, thus hurting both brands.
                      Bump. A little friendly smack makes things interesting, but this has gone overboard--some of the member comments also.

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                      • #41
                        still waiting b12.....



                        this is my last post. this thread proves itself.

                        chem

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                        • #42
                          SOMEONE JUST TURNED UP THE HEAT IN HERE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 DEFINATELY NEEDED. WAY TO GO CHEM.

                          FREEDUM

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by basskiller
                            don'T PM me anymore.. Buyb12.. I'm sick of typing up a damn response to your unfounded alligations and innuendos only to find out that your box is full yet again..
                            It's apparent that you don't know how to clean out a box thoroughly..


                            PS.. I would like to see Chemo's lab test

                            Exactly ..how can you call other company chems toxic when you cant even list the ingredients to ANY of our research chemicals...

                            Fuck you. Go use your bubble gum flavored toothpaste....You little bitch. From what I have heard over the last couple days, is your chems are flavored and still taste like shit. Just like EVERYBODY elses. This is body building, not some fucking taste test at SAM's Club.

                            You starterd this fire, you had your chance to put it out. YOU KEEP THREATENING ME VIA PM...WHY DONT YOU POST YOUR THREATS SO EVERYBODY CAN SEE THEM?? You say "edit your last post or else" Then you know people that "want my head" and you "know where I live".

                            Where is your integrity you piece of shit. You show up at my door your fuck...meet me in person. You are a piece of shit who does not know the first thing about business. You are a "short termer" You will burn yourself out fast enough. The boards are already changing their opinions of you. Keep up the good work shit bag. I am also looking into getting mass quatities of b12 and giving it away for free. You wont even have a market for it. I will show you how to ruin a business. This is not a bluff or threat. I will have it all by the first week of Jan. Freeb12.com coming at you.

                            All this because you are constantly threatening me....personally. You stepped over the line by doing that. You left the bad business part and walked right into something personal -- I dont do well with people threatening me.....especaily via PM, and not to my face --

                            Watch your six bro.....Mr. Forced Recon (wich I doubt...they are built around integrity and respect which you lack 100%)

                            Chem......

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